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SWINDON TOWN: Cooper desperate to send the fans home happy

Swindon Advertiser: Mark Cooper Mark Cooper

SWINDON Town manager Mark Cooper says his players owe their fans a good home performance after a run of mediocre and substandard displays at the County Ground.

It’s been six weeks since the Robins last won a game on home turf - the 3-1 victory over Shrewsbury Town - and since then Cooper’s men have drawn three and lost one of their four outings.

Given Swindon’s flying start to the campaign in SN1, where Town won all bar one of their first five home matches, the recent barren streak is unfamiliar to supporters and Cooper stressed that his squad need to offer their fans some much needed respite.

“Training has been good and the boys have been in good spirits but I just hope they go and put a performance on at home now because we’re due a performance at home and send our fans home happy on a Saturday evening,” he said.

“We’re due a dominant performance where we can really dominate the football, create opportunities and score some goals.”

Town rediscovered their mojo at Crewe last weekend, playing 90 minutes of entertaining and attractive football during the 1-1 draw, and Cooper has praised his players for showing the “bravery” to stick with their ideals during a difficult period.

“We’ve always known we’ve got that performance in us because we’ve shown it numerous times throughout the course of the season but when you’ve got a group of numerous players, the age and newness of the group you’re going to get performances that are up and down,” he said.

“You’ll see the best of the players next year, I believe, but they’ve done really well so far. Yes, we’ve had some poor performances as a group and that’s a culmination of us trying to get where we want to get and creating a style we want to create.

“You’re going to have dips because it takes a lot of bravery not to boot the ball down the pitch but to play out and keep possession of the ball. That takes more bravery than going into a two-footed tackle and hoping you don’t come out the other end with a broken leg.

“When there are seven, eight, nine, 10 thousand people shouting at you ‘get it forward’ and you decide ’no, the coach asked me to get the ball on the floor and try to play’ that’s bravery.

“Over the next few months we’ll get better, we’ll have our dips but we will be better and we will win games by doing it.

“They will get better and better with age, whether they’re with us or back with their parent clubs or get sold or move on, they’ll get better. We have to keep preaching the philosophy and I know it’s frustrating at times but that’s the way we’re going to go, it’s not going to change.

“We’re going to try to produce players, try to play football and we believe over a number of games we’ll get more results doing that than we’d get booting it forward.”

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5:54am Fri 7 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Must not forget they are only young and it's a work in progress
Must not forget they are only young and it's a work in progress smirg kcab
  • Score: -12

6:18am Fri 7 Mar 14

oo-r-ya? says...

You can't blame the players for your tactical decisions to sit back on a one goal lead with our defence. You cannot say it's down to them when you make defensive substitutions after going ahead. By the way, who's this Copper guy Adver?
You can't blame the players for your tactical decisions to sit back on a one goal lead with our defence. You cannot say it's down to them when you make defensive substitutions after going ahead. By the way, who's this Copper guy Adver? oo-r-ya?
  • Score: -10

6:39am Fri 7 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

DONT CARE FOR A GOOD SHOW ...JUST THE POINTS WILL DO...
Plus if we take the lead PLEASE DONT SIT BACK and try to defend what we have as we ALL KNOW what happens...
DONT CARE FOR A GOOD SHOW ...JUST THE POINTS WILL DO... Plus if we take the lead PLEASE DONT SIT BACK and try to defend what we have as we ALL KNOW what happens... dazzastfc
  • Score: 9

7:29am Fri 7 Mar 14

who am i says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Must not forget they are only young and it's a work in progress
you little devil
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Must not forget they are only young and it's a work in progress[/p][/quote]you little devil who am i
  • Score: 0

7:46am Fri 7 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Recent home results may not be "familiar" but they are not a surprise either. It always looked likely that the good home form would end before the poor away form did. Somehow we managed to bag the points at home while rarely looking convincing. It's been a strange season - a damp squib overall and yet we sit in 7th. With the canny recruitment of a good defender and midfielder in the summer we could have been flying.
Recent home results may not be "familiar" but they are not a surprise either. It always looked likely that the good home form would end before the poor away form did. Somehow we managed to bag the points at home while rarely looking convincing. It's been a strange season - a damp squib overall and yet we sit in 7th. With the canny recruitment of a good defender and midfielder in the summer we could have been flying. Oi Den!
  • Score: -2

8:03am Fri 7 Mar 14

Stickshaker says...

Looking forward to a very positive afternoon in the DRS.
Looking forward to a very positive afternoon in the DRS. Stickshaker
  • Score: 10

8:14am Fri 7 Mar 14

port de soller says...

sorry but this guy comes out with the same old song,also he should give his post match interviews a miss.
Nice guy he probably is,Manager and coach a no no,yet 7th in table is it just us STFC Fickle fans????????
At least there a better position than most of us thought we would be in.
However for me(opinion only) before I´m slagged off he just does not fit the bill at the CG
sorry but this guy comes out with the same old song,also he should give his post match interviews a miss. Nice guy he probably is,Manager and coach a no no,yet 7th in table is it just us STFC Fickle fans???????? At least there a better position than most of us thought we would be in. However for me(opinion only) before I´m slagged off he just does not fit the bill at the CG port de soller
  • Score: -25

8:26am Fri 7 Mar 14

fraser digby's washbag says...

Once we clear out the legacy of wages for Navarro, benson, Archibald henville etc, we'll be much better placed to compete for a handfull of senior pros to compete with the youngsters who will all be a year older. Even if we lose 1 or 2 plus the loanies, I still reckon power ax work his magic in the loan market again, plus have the whole summer to scout for 6 or 7 new signings, instead of last years 16 or 17. I think you won't find mark cooper (or copper) using age as a reason next season.
Once we clear out the legacy of wages for Navarro, benson, Archibald henville etc, we'll be much better placed to compete for a handfull of senior pros to compete with the youngsters who will all be a year older. Even if we lose 1 or 2 plus the loanies, I still reckon power ax work his magic in the loan market again, plus have the whole summer to scout for 6 or 7 new signings, instead of last years 16 or 17. I think you won't find mark cooper (or copper) using age as a reason next season. fraser digby's washbag
  • Score: 16

8:41am Fri 7 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Have I must something? Have we replaced cooper with copper?
Have I must something? Have we replaced cooper with copper? smirg kcab
  • Score: -12

8:52am Fri 7 Mar 14

umpcah says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Have I must something? Have we replaced cooper with copper?
Several posters have demanded that Cooper be replaced asap !
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Have I must something? Have we replaced cooper with copper?[/p][/quote]Several posters have demanded that Cooper be replaced asap ! umpcah
  • Score: -4

9:01am Fri 7 Mar 14

Robinonfire says...

1 win in 7...Why don't you leave Cooper that will make me happy.
1 win in 7...Why don't you leave Cooper that will make me happy. Robinonfire
  • Score: -21

9:21am Fri 7 Mar 14

LeGod says...

**** right were owed a performance as the last few home games have been dire and the away games i have attended have been the same.
If all the talk from MC is to have a go to sneak into the play offs then it needs to start tomorrow win 3 points.Looking at the runs ins of the clubs in the top 6 Peterborough have the easiest path on paper but they are a strange side and with most of their games against teams near the bottom who are all fighting for points who knows what could happen.
We have the quality when we are firing to beat anyone in the league but the last couple of months have been lact lustre performances from our players and i always feel if we go a goal down we never look like coming back unless we had Ranger in the side as i always felt we would create plenty of chances.
I seriously hope we are going for an attacking formation tomorrow and put MK on the back foot from the start of the game and not play our normal one up front.
As i said yesterday MC need to rally the troops tomorrow and get them motivated as tomorrow is a crucial game and could put us very close to Pepterborough if they slip up who play Crewe but are fighting for points so no game is easy now whoever you play. Although it would be good to see a good performance the three points is the main aim tomorrow. Lets hope Pritchard is back in the squad as his flair causes problems for anyone but the manager and the whole squad have to perform tomorrow and the likes of Brker who tlaks the talk and Murphy if they are involved need to go out and both give good performances as they have had enough game time now to really push on and show us what they are capable of.
**** right were owed a performance as the last few home games have been dire and the away games i have attended have been the same. If all the talk from MC is to have a go to sneak into the play offs then it needs to start tomorrow win 3 points.Looking at the runs ins of the clubs in the top 6 Peterborough have the easiest path on paper but they are a strange side and with most of their games against teams near the bottom who are all fighting for points who knows what could happen. We have the quality when we are firing to beat anyone in the league but the last couple of months have been lact lustre performances from our players and i always feel if we go a goal down we never look like coming back unless we had Ranger in the side as i always felt we would create plenty of chances. I seriously hope we are going for an attacking formation tomorrow and put MK on the back foot from the start of the game and not play our normal one up front. As i said yesterday MC need to rally the troops tomorrow and get them motivated as tomorrow is a crucial game and could put us very close to Pepterborough if they slip up who play Crewe but are fighting for points so no game is easy now whoever you play. Although it would be good to see a good performance the three points is the main aim tomorrow. Lets hope Pritchard is back in the squad as his flair causes problems for anyone but the manager and the whole squad have to perform tomorrow and the likes of Brker who tlaks the talk and Murphy if they are involved need to go out and both give good performances as they have had enough game time now to really push on and show us what they are capable of. LeGod
  • Score: 2

9:36am Fri 7 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

Bit puzzled on the tactics reading across today's threads, on one hand we have been practising getting the ball wide and getting crosses in yet 'Diamonds are Forever' thread names Harley, Louis, Luongo and Kasim which offers no genuine width.

Didn't go to Crewe where apparently the midfield diamond were excellent, but MK Dons are no mugs and I hope Pritchard is accommodated in whatever formation we play and we do get width and crosses in. Smith I'm sure will bag a few if he gets some chances.
Bit puzzled on the tactics reading across today's threads, on one hand we have been practising getting the ball wide and getting crosses in yet 'Diamonds are Forever' thread names Harley, Louis, Luongo and Kasim which offers no genuine width. Didn't go to Crewe where apparently the midfield diamond were excellent, but MK Dons are no mugs and I hope Pritchard is accommodated in whatever formation we play and we do get width and crosses in. Smith I'm sure will bag a few if he gets some chances. Wilesy
  • Score: 4

9:43am Fri 7 Mar 14

bearwoodred says...

so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club. bearwoodred
  • Score: 18

9:53am Fri 7 Mar 14

RAYSPARROW says...

I am still wondering how we beat Shrewsbury.
I am still wondering how we beat Shrewsbury. RAYSPARROW
  • Score: 1

10:03am Fri 7 Mar 14

LeGod says...

Cant see Kasim starting tomorrow due to his 90 minutes for Iraq on wednesday night and MC having other options as well so i reckon he will start on the bench.

Smith up front really needs to come to the forw tomorrow but having said that he does needs to service from the wide areas as i think his game is based on balls coming into the box and him attacking it. He cant do the same as Ranger even with his size which is hold the ball up and the problem is if he doesnt hold it up it puts us under pressure straight away as the opposition can then counter attack.
We really need to have options on changing tactics tomorrow depending on how the game is going.
Cant see Kasim starting tomorrow due to his 90 minutes for Iraq on wednesday night and MC having other options as well so i reckon he will start on the bench. Smith up front really needs to come to the forw tomorrow but having said that he does needs to service from the wide areas as i think his game is based on balls coming into the box and him attacking it. He cant do the same as Ranger even with his size which is hold the ball up and the problem is if he doesnt hold it up it puts us under pressure straight away as the opposition can then counter attack. We really need to have options on changing tactics tomorrow depending on how the game is going. LeGod
  • Score: 2

10:45am Fri 7 Mar 14

Davidsyrett says...

Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it? Davidsyrett
  • Score: 2

11:10am Fri 7 Mar 14

Robinonfire says...

BUZZ OFF Cooper
BUZZ OFF Cooper Robinonfire
  • Score: -13

12:13pm Fri 7 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round .
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round . lifelong red
  • Score: 3

12:13pm Fri 7 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round .
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round . lifelong red
  • Score: 0

12:25pm Fri 7 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

Apologies for my double posts .
Apologies for my double posts . lifelong red
  • Score: -2

12:32pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

lifelong red wrote:
bearwoodred wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round .
Exactly - I'd tried to make this point the other day also, whether we get into the play offs or not, we need some good form to end the season on to give us some momentum going into next, just miss out on the play offs and we'll be looking more positive than if we finish mid table. Need a few wins to lift us if nothing else.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round .[/p][/quote]Exactly - I'd tried to make this point the other day also, whether we get into the play offs or not, we need some good form to end the season on to give us some momentum going into next, just miss out on the play offs and we'll be looking more positive than if we finish mid table. Need a few wins to lift us if nothing else. Swindon1984
  • Score: 3

12:43pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Cleuso says...

THIS ! From bearwood red

"Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club".

That will be lost in understanding on those of the irk of Bradeley Red 1 and Robinonfire and those from afar who rarely, if ever get to a game at the County Ground or around the country on the teams travels.
THIS ! From bearwood red "Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club". That will be lost in understanding on those of the irk of Bradeley Red 1 and Robinonfire and those from afar who rarely, if ever get to a game at the County Ground or around the country on the teams travels. Cleuso
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Fri 7 Mar 14

London Red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started! London Red
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Fri 7 Mar 14

London Red says...

London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined
.
Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply
Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started![/p][/quote]Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined . Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed? London Red
  • Score: -2

1:29pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Davidsyrett says...

London Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined
.
Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply
Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?
That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started![/p][/quote]Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined . Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund. Davidsyrett
  • Score: -2

1:31pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Davidsyrett says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
London Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined
.
Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply
Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?
That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.
Further to that, I seem to remember when Power took over ha said he wouldn't be using Twitter as an outlet!!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started![/p][/quote]Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined . Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.[/p][/quote]Further to that, I seem to remember when Power took over ha said he wouldn't be using Twitter as an outlet!! Davidsyrett
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Fri 7 Mar 14

LeGod says...

Changing subject- What is the football league fit and proper rule all about ive brought it up due to the Birmingham chairman being jailed for 6 years for fraud.

There has also been Shinatra or whatever his name was at Man City doing the same.

Pompey had the only Arab that didnt have a penny and who no one ever saw followed by the russian who was an arms dealer.

Now we have Leeds who have some dodgy Italian trying to take over who is corrupt.

The reason im saying it is after everything we went through with the embargo etc and proving our owners had money yet it seems the higher up the league you are the FL seem to give all these crooks the thumbs up.

Im sure there are a few more i have forgotten but im also sure alot of these foreign owners of our clubs are all as they say they are.
Changing subject- What is the football league fit and proper rule all about ive brought it up due to the Birmingham chairman being jailed for 6 years for fraud. There has also been Shinatra or whatever his name was at Man City doing the same. Pompey had the only Arab that didnt have a penny and who no one ever saw followed by the russian who was an arms dealer. Now we have Leeds who have some dodgy Italian trying to take over who is corrupt. The reason im saying it is after everything we went through with the embargo etc and proving our owners had money yet it seems the higher up the league you are the FL seem to give all these crooks the thumbs up. Im sure there are a few more i have forgotten but im also sure alot of these foreign owners of our clubs are all as they say they are. LeGod
  • Score: 2

2:40pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
London Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined
.
Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply
Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?
That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.
The club evidently still not on good terms with the Adver...but scoring an own goal in the process as if no-one sees it no-one buys it! Is it being advertised anywhere other than the official website and a few mailshots?

Interested to see how many turn up tomorrow, weather should be OK, MK Dons decent opposition, England rugby on Sunday, 6th place still mathematically up for grabs.....
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started![/p][/quote]Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined . Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.[/p][/quote]The club evidently still not on good terms with the Adver...but scoring an own goal in the process as if no-one sees it no-one buys it! Is it being advertised anywhere other than the official website and a few mailshots? Interested to see how many turn up tomorrow, weather should be OK, MK Dons decent opposition, England rugby on Sunday, 6th place still mathematically up for grabs..... Wilesy
  • Score: 0

3:07pm Fri 7 Mar 14

the don69 says...

Wilesy wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
London Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined
.
Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply
Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?
That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.
The club evidently still not on good terms with the Adver...but scoring an own goal in the process as if no-one sees it no-one buys it! Is it being advertised anywhere other than the official website and a few mailshots?

Interested to see how many turn up tomorrow, weather should be OK, MK Dons decent opposition, England rugby on Sunday, 6th place still mathematically up for grabs.....
I reckon 7500 at most, a lot will go Tuesday against the Wolves and I've heard there bringing a lot so a big gate that night, sadly a poor one for MK!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started![/p][/quote]Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined . Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.[/p][/quote]The club evidently still not on good terms with the Adver...but scoring an own goal in the process as if no-one sees it no-one buys it! Is it being advertised anywhere other than the official website and a few mailshots? Interested to see how many turn up tomorrow, weather should be OK, MK Dons decent opposition, England rugby on Sunday, 6th place still mathematically up for grabs.....[/p][/quote]I reckon 7500 at most, a lot will go Tuesday against the Wolves and I've heard there bringing a lot so a big gate that night, sadly a poor one for MK!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Fri 7 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them. smirg kcab
  • Score: -4

3:24pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

I've been given an original Adver from 8th June 1946. There's an article headed "Town F.C. Made £2,398 Profit Last Season".

"Gate receipts from League and Cup matches reached the record high figure of £17,676 1s 11d, but of that sum no less than £6,758 11s 3d was paid to the Government in entertainment tax."

Other amounts revealed:

Paid to other clubs as share of gate receipts £3,462
(I'm rounding all the figures now)
Received from other clubs as share of gate receipts. £2,329
Wages and salaries £4,177
Match expenses £1,798
Football League pool payments £1,086
Printing, stationery and advertisements £195
Playing kit, laundry and training expenses £164
Rent, rates and taxes £304
Insurances and percentage payments to the Football League. £191
Transfer fee (presumably Derrick, from Newport County) £200

"They (the directors) also state that the lease of the County Ground from the Corporation having expired, negotiations were opened, and in a very sympathetic atmosphere a new lease of 25 years was agreed upon, 'the terms being very favourable to the company, giving scope for future development' "
I've been given an original Adver from 8th June 1946. There's an article headed "Town F.C. Made £2,398 Profit Last Season". "Gate receipts from League and Cup matches reached the record high figure of £17,676 1s 11d, but of that sum no less than £6,758 11s 3d was paid to the Government in entertainment tax." Other amounts revealed: Paid to other clubs as share of gate receipts £3,462 (I'm rounding all the figures now) Received from other clubs as share of gate receipts. £2,329 Wages and salaries £4,177 Match expenses £1,798 Football League pool payments £1,086 Printing, stationery and advertisements £195 Playing kit, laundry and training expenses £164 Rent, rates and taxes £304 Insurances and percentage payments to the Football League. £191 Transfer fee (presumably Derrick, from Newport County) £200 "They (the directors) also state that the lease of the County Ground from the Corporation having expired, negotiations were opened, and in a very sympathetic atmosphere a new lease of 25 years was agreed upon, 'the terms being very favourable to the company, giving scope for future development' " Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

3:53pm Fri 7 Mar 14

London Red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
London Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?
It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges
.
Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started!
Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined
.
Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply
Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?
That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.
Further to that, I seem to remember when Power took over ha said he wouldn't be using Twitter as an outlet!!
Power said HE wouldn't use Twitter like Jed did
.
He never said the club would not use Twitter or Facebook on their official pages
.
Guess if fans follow or like them - then all their followers and friends will see any message which is lots of free advertising
.
Also as mentioned 2 big home games coming up so would have guessed pretty much anyone who would likely buy one will be at one of the games to see the promotion
.
Still why reject a article in the paper? Especially if they didn't have to buy advertising space!
.
Still the entire online population who read the Adver will know as it has been mentioned in a few articles now - so doing their advertising - maybe that's what they wanted???
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Why no story on 10% reduction in ST's? or did I miss it?[/p][/quote]It does seem the Adver is not that interested in rebuilding bridges . Surely stories promoting offers like this would go down far better with the club rather than the "club refused to confirm or deny" remarks plastered all over here and worse on Twitter where most of the problems started![/p][/quote]Looks like I should have looked at Twitter before posting - Sam has retweeted about the promotion and said he offered to run a piece which the club apparently declined . Not sure why they would need to ask the club - surely an article simply Stating 10% off ST if purchased before 17 March is allowed to be printed?[/p][/quote]That makes no sense at all, surely the club would want as much publicity as possible, otherwise whats the point of the promotion? It only last's 7 days after all!! At least those of us who have already bought a ST will get a 10% refund.[/p][/quote]Further to that, I seem to remember when Power took over ha said he wouldn't be using Twitter as an outlet!![/p][/quote]Power said HE wouldn't use Twitter like Jed did . He never said the club would not use Twitter or Facebook on their official pages . Guess if fans follow or like them - then all their followers and friends will see any message which is lots of free advertising . Also as mentioned 2 big home games coming up so would have guessed pretty much anyone who would likely buy one will be at one of the games to see the promotion . Still why reject a article in the paper? Especially if they didn't have to buy advertising space! . Still the entire online population who read the Adver will know as it has been mentioned in a few articles now - so doing their advertising - maybe that's what they wanted??? London Red
  • Score: 0

4:26pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

From the same Adver:

"We were in a hurry to get home", said Leonard Ewart Herring, who was seen cycling with his wife sitting on the crossbar. At Swindon Police Court to-day they were both fined 5s for riding on one bicycle.

Judging by the report on the Town's finances, ten bob must have been a lot of money in 1946!
From the same Adver: "We were in a hurry to get home", said Leonard Ewart Herring, who was seen cycling with his wife sitting on the crossbar. At Swindon Police Court to-day they were both fined 5s for riding on one bicycle. Judging by the report on the Town's finances, ten bob must have been a lot of money in 1946! Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

4:44pm Fri 7 Mar 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I've been given an original Adver from 8th June 1946. There's an article headed "Town F.C. Made £2,398 Profit Last Season".

"Gate receipts from League and Cup matches reached the record high figure of £17,676 1s 11d, but of that sum no less than £6,758 11s 3d was paid to the Government in entertainment tax."

Other amounts revealed:

Paid to other clubs as share of gate receipts £3,462
(I'm rounding all the figures now)
Received from other clubs as share of gate receipts. £2,329
Wages and salaries £4,177
Match expenses £1,798
Football League pool payments £1,086
Printing, stationery and advertisements £195
Playing kit, laundry and training expenses £164
Rent, rates and taxes £304
Insurances and percentage payments to the Football League. £191
Transfer fee (presumably Derrick, from Newport County) £200

"They (the directors) also state that the lease of the County Ground from the Corporation having expired, negotiations were opened, and in a very sympathetic atmosphere a new lease of 25 years was agreed upon, 'the terms being very favourable to the company, giving scope for future development' "
Nice one Den! shame they didn't buy the County Ground in 1946 it would have cost a round of drinks at the Council and a bung! LOL!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I've been given an original Adver from 8th June 1946. There's an article headed "Town F.C. Made £2,398 Profit Last Season". "Gate receipts from League and Cup matches reached the record high figure of £17,676 1s 11d, but of that sum no less than £6,758 11s 3d was paid to the Government in entertainment tax." Other amounts revealed: Paid to other clubs as share of gate receipts £3,462 (I'm rounding all the figures now) Received from other clubs as share of gate receipts. £2,329 Wages and salaries £4,177 Match expenses £1,798 Football League pool payments £1,086 Printing, stationery and advertisements £195 Playing kit, laundry and training expenses £164 Rent, rates and taxes £304 Insurances and percentage payments to the Football League. £191 Transfer fee (presumably Derrick, from Newport County) £200 "They (the directors) also state that the lease of the County Ground from the Corporation having expired, negotiations were opened, and in a very sympathetic atmosphere a new lease of 25 years was agreed upon, 'the terms being very favourable to the company, giving scope for future development' "[/p][/quote]Nice one Den! shame they didn't buy the County Ground in 1946 it would have cost a round of drinks at the Council and a bung! LOL!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 1

4:50pm Fri 7 Mar 14

the don69 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: -1

5:20pm Fri 7 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

6:10pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale Wilesy
  • Score: 0

6:23pm Fri 7 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
bearwoodred wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round .
Exactly - I'd tried to make this point the other day also, whether we get into the play offs or not, we need some good form to end the season on to give us some momentum going into next, just miss out on the play offs and we'll be looking more positive than if we finish mid table. Need a few wins to lift us if nothing else.
We have 12 games left and are past 12 GAMES has a return of 13 points...
NOTHING BUT RELEGATION FORM...or am i wrong with that ?
We have a very very difficult run in..
This team is not a work in progress as it wont be the same team next season or any wat near it...

We have to stop using this excuse that we are a young team and still learning..
Dont get me wrong as i think we have some great players and a very good team BUT we HAVE A POOR MANAGEMENT TEAM TO GO WITH IT...
With this team we should be at least in the top 3
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Very true bearwoodred - its also important to finish the season with a flourish to maybe help restore a bit of confidence all round .[/p][/quote]Exactly - I'd tried to make this point the other day also, whether we get into the play offs or not, we need some good form to end the season on to give us some momentum going into next, just miss out on the play offs and we'll be looking more positive than if we finish mid table. Need a few wins to lift us if nothing else.[/p][/quote]We have 12 games left and are past 12 GAMES has a return of 13 points... NOTHING BUT RELEGATION FORM...or am i wrong with that ? We have a very very difficult run in.. This team is not a work in progress as it wont be the same team next season or any wat near it... We have to stop using this excuse that we are a young team and still learning.. Dont get me wrong as i think we have some great players and a very good team BUT we HAVE A POOR MANAGEMENT TEAM TO GO WITH IT... With this team we should be at least in the top 3 dazzastfc
  • Score: -3

6:28pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

Wilesy wrote:
Bit puzzled on the tactics reading across today's threads, on one hand we have been practising getting the ball wide and getting crosses in yet 'Diamonds are Forever' thread names Harley, Louis, Luongo and Kasim which offers no genuine width.

Didn't go to Crewe where apparently the midfield diamond were excellent, but MK Dons are no mugs and I hope Pritchard is accommodated in whatever formation we play and we do get width and crosses in. Smith I'm sure will bag a few if he gets some chances.
As long as the bottom of that diamond/box (Louis/Kasim) is plugging the gap ahead of our two centre-backs I think we will all be going home happy:

starting Eleven on merit/ability//work rate:

Wes
Nathan Ward Troy Byrne
Luongo Kasim Louis Harley
Pritchard N'Guessan

Subs:
Belford, Barthram, Branco, Gladwin, Murphy, Tijane and Smith

Go for goals from the outset, then hit on the counter attack once we've got a lead (using Murphy and Tijane on the wings) maybe bring Gladwin on later if Kasim tires.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Bit puzzled on the tactics reading across today's threads, on one hand we have been practising getting the ball wide and getting crosses in yet 'Diamonds are Forever' thread names Harley, Louis, Luongo and Kasim which offers no genuine width. Didn't go to Crewe where apparently the midfield diamond were excellent, but MK Dons are no mugs and I hope Pritchard is accommodated in whatever formation we play and we do get width and crosses in. Smith I'm sure will bag a few if he gets some chances.[/p][/quote]As long as the bottom of that diamond/box (Louis/Kasim) is plugging the gap ahead of our two centre-backs I think we will all be going home happy: starting Eleven on merit/ability//work rate: Wes Nathan Ward Troy Byrne Luongo Kasim Louis Harley Pritchard N'Guessan Subs: Belford, Barthram, Branco, Gladwin, Murphy, Tijane and Smith Go for goals from the outset, then hit on the counter attack once we've got a lead (using Murphy and Tijane on the wings) maybe bring Gladwin on later if Kasim tires. Fernham Red
  • Score: 2

6:44pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please..............
.
Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping!
I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please.............. . Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping! Fernham Red
  • Score: 5

6:44pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

port de soller wrote:
sorry but this guy comes out with the same old song,also he should give his post match interviews a miss.
Nice guy he probably is,Manager and coach a no no,yet 7th in table is it just us STFC Fickle fans????????
At least there a better position than most of us thought we would be in.
However for me(opinion only) before I´m slagged off he just does not fit the bill at the CG
Well said, agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: sorry but this guy comes out with the same old song,also he should give his post match interviews a miss. Nice guy he probably is,Manager and coach a no no,yet 7th in table is it just us STFC Fickle fans???????? At least there a better position than most of us thought we would be in. However for me(opinion only) before I´m slagged off he just does not fit the bill at the CG[/p][/quote]Well said, agree 100% stranglers
  • Score: -1

6:45pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

Robinonfire wrote:
1 win in 7...Why don't you leave Cooper that will make me happy.
You and me both RoF.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 win in 7...Why don't you leave Cooper that will make me happy.[/p][/quote]You and me both RoF. stranglers
  • Score: -2

6:45pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Rose tinted glasses again today.
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Rose tinted glasses again today. stranglers
  • Score: 0

6:46pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

Robinonfire wrote:
BUZZ OFF Cooper
I wish.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: BUZZ OFF Cooper[/p][/quote]I wish. stranglers
  • Score: -4

7:01pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

Dazza, I've got to disagree with you on "with our squad we should be top three" for a couple of reasons.
1) we have one of the most cheaply assembled 'active' squads (the big earners are sick-notes or loaned out) in the league. A you really saying we should be matching the talent bought in by Wolves, Brentford, Preston, Peterborough and Rotherham with no cash to spend?
2) if you are saying we should be 3rd with those said same players, then surely you should be complimenting both LP and MC on their scouting, recruitment and coaching of such talented youngsters rather than writing out a P45.
Surely they're over-achieving and you just have high expectations of them. Would you be saying all this if we had 5 or 6 points more than we do now and were sitting pretty in 6th? I reckon it's just frustration at knowing how close we are to something special but not quite sure when we'll get there. Let's be honest, there are a lot more positives this season than negatives? We can at least agree on that, right?
Dazza, I've got to disagree with you on "with our squad we should be top three" for a couple of reasons. 1) we have one of the most cheaply assembled 'active' squads (the big earners are sick-notes or loaned out) in the league. A you really saying we should be matching the talent bought in by Wolves, Brentford, Preston, Peterborough and Rotherham with no cash to spend? 2) if you are saying we should be 3rd with those said same players, then surely you should be complimenting both LP and MC on their scouting, recruitment and coaching of such talented youngsters rather than writing out a P45. Surely they're over-achieving and you just have high expectations of them. Would you be saying all this if we had 5 or 6 points more than we do now and were sitting pretty in 6th? I reckon it's just frustration at knowing how close we are to something special but not quite sure when we'll get there. Let's be honest, there are a lot more positives this season than negatives? We can at least agree on that, right? Fernham Red
  • Score: 5

7:04pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

stranglers wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Rose tinted glasses again today.
Pints half empty again today.
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Rose tinted glasses again today.[/p][/quote]Pints half empty again today. Fernham Red
  • Score: 3

7:23pm Fri 7 Mar 14

MARK TITCOMBE says...

Cooper
Why don't you listen to what we are saying.

We are not saying change the style!
We are saying - "manage the team so that they do it well and consistently" It's nothing to do with age!
They are men not 10 year olds.
Stop making excuses for your lack of skills as a manager.
You just don't have what it takes to get the best out of them. If they can do it sometimes you have to ask yourself why it is not most of the time? especially with the same set of players.

Why sit back on a lead ????????????????????
?????? that's not good coaching. And before you say it again, no one is saying start hoofing it. We are saying keep the pressure on with the quality football this team is clearly capable of.
Cooper Why don't you listen to what we are saying. We are not saying change the style! We are saying - "manage the team so that they do it well and consistently" It's nothing to do with age! They are men not 10 year olds. Stop making excuses for your lack of skills as a manager. You just don't have what it takes to get the best out of them. If they can do it sometimes you have to ask yourself why it is not most of the time? especially with the same set of players. Why sit back on a lead ???????????????????? ?????? that's not good coaching. And before you say it again, no one is saying start hoofing it. We are saying keep the pressure on with the quality football this team is clearly capable of. MARK TITCOMBE
  • Score: 0

7:41pm Fri 7 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
Looks like they've gambled and may lose?
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed[/p][/quote]Looks like they've gambled and may lose? Wilesy
  • Score: 0

7:54pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

Fernham Red wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Bit puzzled on the tactics reading across today's threads, on one hand we have been practising getting the ball wide and getting crosses in yet 'Diamonds are Forever' thread names Harley, Louis, Luongo and Kasim which offers no genuine width.

Didn't go to Crewe where apparently the midfield diamond were excellent, but MK Dons are no mugs and I hope Pritchard is accommodated in whatever formation we play and we do get width and crosses in. Smith I'm sure will bag a few if he gets some chances.
As long as the bottom of that diamond/box (Louis/Kasim) is plugging the gap ahead of our two centre-backs I think we will all be going home happy:

starting Eleven on merit/ability//work rate:

Wes
Nathan Ward Troy Byrne
Luongo Kasim Louis Harley
Pritchard N'Guessan

Subs:
Belford, Barthram, Branco, Gladwin, Murphy, Tijane and Smith

Go for goals from the outset, then hit on the counter attack once we've got a lead (using Murphy and Tijane on the wings) maybe bring Gladwin on later if Kasim tires.
I would think about that formation once defending a lead - it features two wingers up front and no wingers in midfield, and no recognised strikers.

Have to get Smith up top and Pritchard on the wing, and I would use Murphy too he wants another month, has something to prove.
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Bit puzzled on the tactics reading across today's threads, on one hand we have been practising getting the ball wide and getting crosses in yet 'Diamonds are Forever' thread names Harley, Louis, Luongo and Kasim which offers no genuine width. Didn't go to Crewe where apparently the midfield diamond were excellent, but MK Dons are no mugs and I hope Pritchard is accommodated in whatever formation we play and we do get width and crosses in. Smith I'm sure will bag a few if he gets some chances.[/p][/quote]As long as the bottom of that diamond/box (Louis/Kasim) is plugging the gap ahead of our two centre-backs I think we will all be going home happy: starting Eleven on merit/ability//work rate: Wes Nathan Ward Troy Byrne Luongo Kasim Louis Harley Pritchard N'Guessan Subs: Belford, Barthram, Branco, Gladwin, Murphy, Tijane and Smith Go for goals from the outset, then hit on the counter attack once we've got a lead (using Murphy and Tijane on the wings) maybe bring Gladwin on later if Kasim tires.[/p][/quote]I would think about that formation once defending a lead - it features two wingers up front and no wingers in midfield, and no recognised strikers. Have to get Smith up top and Pritchard on the wing, and I would use Murphy too he wants another month, has something to prove. Wilesy
  • Score: 0

8:01pm Fri 7 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
Looks like they've gambled and may lose?
Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed[/p][/quote]Looks like they've gambled and may lose?[/p][/quote]Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages? smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

8:05pm Fri 7 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

Fernham Red wrote:
Dazza, I've got to disagree with you on "with our squad we should be top three" for a couple of reasons.
1) we have one of the most cheaply assembled 'active' squads (the big earners are sick-notes or loaned out) in the league. A you really saying we should be matching the talent bought in by Wolves, Brentford, Preston, Peterborough and Rotherham with no cash to spend?
2) if you are saying we should be 3rd with those said same players, then surely you should be complimenting both LP and MC on their scouting, recruitment and coaching of such talented youngsters rather than writing out a P45.
Surely they're over-achieving and you just have high expectations of them. Would you be saying all this if we had 5 or 6 points more than we do now and were sitting pretty in 6th? I reckon it's just frustration at knowing how close we are to something special but not quite sure when we'll get there. Let's be honest, there are a lot more positives this season than negatives? We can at least agree on that, right?
OK that's your right to think that..
Being a good scout DON'T make anyone a good manager...
I thought it was LP that bought in the players ?..

And no I would not be happy with 5 or 6 more points
As I said WITH THE TEAM that i think we have got and watched them play WE SHOULD BE IN THE TOP 3.. As this is a very poor div 3...
We have all watched STFC play great flowing football..
.WHY THE BIG CHANGE IN THE PAST 15 GAMES...

As i said IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENT
YOU 4GOT Orient
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: Dazza, I've got to disagree with you on "with our squad we should be top three" for a couple of reasons. 1) we have one of the most cheaply assembled 'active' squads (the big earners are sick-notes or loaned out) in the league. A you really saying we should be matching the talent bought in by Wolves, Brentford, Preston, Peterborough and Rotherham with no cash to spend? 2) if you are saying we should be 3rd with those said same players, then surely you should be complimenting both LP and MC on their scouting, recruitment and coaching of such talented youngsters rather than writing out a P45. Surely they're over-achieving and you just have high expectations of them. Would you be saying all this if we had 5 or 6 points more than we do now and were sitting pretty in 6th? I reckon it's just frustration at knowing how close we are to something special but not quite sure when we'll get there. Let's be honest, there are a lot more positives this season than negatives? We can at least agree on that, right?[/p][/quote]OK that's your right to think that.. Being a good scout DON'T make anyone a good manager... I thought it was LP that bought in the players ?.. And no I would not be happy with 5 or 6 more points As I said WITH THE TEAM that i think we have got and watched them play WE SHOULD BE IN THE TOP 3.. As this is a very poor div 3... We have all watched STFC play great flowing football.. .WHY THE BIG CHANGE IN THE PAST 15 GAMES... As i said IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENT YOU 4GOT Orient dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Fri 7 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

stranglers wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
Rose tinted glasses again today.
If speaking the truth means wearing rose tinted glasses then so be it.
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]Rose tinted glasses again today.[/p][/quote]If speaking the truth means wearing rose tinted glasses then so be it. lifelong red
  • Score: 0

9:12pm Fri 7 Mar 14

alchafreds says...

bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
get in the real world
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]get in the real world alchafreds
  • Score: -5

9:42pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
Looks like they've gambled and may lose?
Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?
I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ?

Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club".

Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!!

New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed[/p][/quote]Looks like they've gambled and may lose?[/p][/quote]Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?[/p][/quote]I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ? Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club". Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!! New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

9:44pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

alchafreds wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways!

Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season.

If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content.

Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.
get in the real world
Please explain what "the real world" is.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: so when Cooper comes out and speaks again he is repeatng himself yet people criiticising him with the same old boring posts rather than getting behind their club are not? Cannot have it both ways! Cooper has constantly outlined the game plan - it won't happen over night, but some signs are good, others need a lot of work. IF and it is an IF it works well next season then it will have been worth it this season - I think it will personally because there are clubs this season doing well who were where we are last season. If it does not work now doubt he will go and then you can all wear your "I TOLD YOU SO T SHIRTS" and post to your hearts content. Witch hunts and spite will not move us forward as a club.[/p][/quote]get in the real world[/p][/quote]Please explain what "the real world" is. Oxon-Red
  • Score: 2

10:15pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Red till Dead says...

It's doom and gloom,doom and gloom I tell ya at the CG,well reading some of the comments on here you would think so,yet we sit 7th in the league when most had us down for relegation before a ball was even kicked at the start of season,we also have some promising talent like the Thompson bro's,kassim,luongo,
smith,ranger,etc..be
ing developed right before our eyes,add a few good experienced players to that with a bit of steel in off season,we could well look very strong next.Lee power is bringing this club to a self sustainable footing so us loyal supporters can carry on supporting this great club of ours for many years to come.We are also becoming a passing team which is good on the eye when goes to plan but will take some patience I know as the future stars are developed into this passing philosophy and mr cooper develops as a coach and I'm sure he has learnt alot from this season.So not all doom and gloom fellow loyals,so why not get behind the lads for the remainder of the season and see where it takes us,load and proad starting from saturday,so what do you say fellow loyals.Enjoy the rest of the season,bless :))
It's doom and gloom,doom and gloom I tell ya at the CG,well reading some of the comments on here you would think so,yet we sit 7th in the league when most had us down for relegation before a ball was even kicked at the start of season,we also have some promising talent like the Thompson bro's,kassim,luongo, smith,ranger,etc..be ing developed right before our eyes,add a few good experienced players to that with a bit of steel in off season,we could well look very strong next.Lee power is bringing this club to a self sustainable footing so us loyal supporters can carry on supporting this great club of ours for many years to come.We are also becoming a passing team which is good on the eye when goes to plan but will take some patience I know as the future stars are developed into this passing philosophy and mr cooper develops as a coach and I'm sure he has learnt alot from this season.So not all doom and gloom fellow loyals,so why not get behind the lads for the remainder of the season and see where it takes us,load and proad starting from saturday,so what do you say fellow loyals.Enjoy the rest of the season,bless :)) Red till Dead
  • Score: 5

10:42pm Fri 7 Mar 14

bearwoodred says...

Fernham Red wrote:
I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please..............

.
Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping!
top man. I will be clapping tomorrow and Tuesday. Right behind them til May
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please.............. . Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping![/p][/quote]top man. I will be clapping tomorrow and Tuesday. Right behind them til May bearwoodred
  • Score: 1

10:56pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Red till Dead says...

bearwoodred wrote:
Fernham Red wrote:
I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please..............


.
Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping!
top man. I will be clapping tomorrow and Tuesday. Right behind them til May
That's the spirit lads,what a great post,bless :))
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please.............. . Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping![/p][/quote]top man. I will be clapping tomorrow and Tuesday. Right behind them til May[/p][/quote]That's the spirit lads,what a great post,bless :)) Red till Dead
  • Score: 1

11:38pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

Red till Dead wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
Fernham Red wrote:
I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please..............



.
Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping!
top man. I will be clapping tomorrow and Tuesday. Right behind them til May
That's the spirit lads,what a great post,bless :))
Manager of the season??????????????
????????????????????
????????????????????
?????, goodness me get real people. I will be singing & praying for the team tomorrow (as always) but I cant wait for the day when MC leaves our club. Yes I know you happy people will say "ok who will replace him"? At this moment in time as the "buzz has gone from the dressing room", MY MUM would do a better job of motivating our team.
[quote][p][bold]Red till Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I've got to say I agree with MC on sticking to our principles; we're building a club, a philosophy and a style of play here. This is the magnet for getting such good young players to join from BIG clubs who play the same style of creative possession football i.e. Spurs, Norwich, Wolves, Peterborough. They're sure as hell not letting their future talent come here because we're paying them!! Without a money tree this is what building a club from the bottom up looks like. Who can honestly say they would rather play roulette year in year out with a load of has been journeymen on free transfers?? That is the alternative!! Lee Power and MC have got it spot on and what's more we're 7th in the league "without a pot to pi$$ in". (I haven't heard that on this forum for a while now..... I wonder why, eh?) If it weren't for Russell Slade at Orient I'd put MC right up there for manager of the season. Who else has achieved so much with so little having been appointed only weeks before the league kicked off? Answers on a postcard please.............. . Yeah, I'm a happy clapper.....that's what the lads need to be hearing from the terraces right now : happy people clapping![/p][/quote]top man. I will be clapping tomorrow and Tuesday. Right behind them til May[/p][/quote]That's the spirit lads,what a great post,bless :))[/p][/quote]Manager of the season?????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????, goodness me get real people. I will be singing & praying for the team tomorrow (as always) but I cant wait for the day when MC leaves our club. Yes I know you happy people will say "ok who will replace him"? At this moment in time as the "buzz has gone from the dressing room", MY MUM would do a better job of motivating our team. stranglers
  • Score: -1

11:43pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
Looks like they've gambled and may lose?
Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?
I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ?

Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club".

Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!!

New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon.

COYMR
Logic???????????????
?????????????? Good management - that's all we need, top down.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed[/p][/quote]Looks like they've gambled and may lose?[/p][/quote]Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?[/p][/quote]I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ? Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club". Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!! New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon. COYMR[/p][/quote]Logic??????????????? ?????????????? Good management - that's all we need, top down. stranglers
  • Score: -1

11:43pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
Looks like they've gambled and may lose?
Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?
I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ?

Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club".

Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!!

New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon.

COYMR
Logic???????????????
?????????????? Good management - that's all we need, top down.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed[/p][/quote]Looks like they've gambled and may lose?[/p][/quote]Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?[/p][/quote]I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ? Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club". Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!! New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon. COYMR[/p][/quote]Logic??????????????? ?????????????? Good management - that's all we need, top down. stranglers
  • Score: 0

11:43pm Fri 7 Mar 14

stranglers says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.
£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!!
It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership.
Aappyyy days arry
Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013.

QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League.

The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts.

During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107

Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place.

Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale
Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed
Looks like they've gambled and may lose?
Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?
I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ?

Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club".

Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!!

New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon.

COYMR
Logic???????????????
?????????????? Good management - that's all we need, top down.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Good ol arry spends more on wages than Dortmund, another club who will be in dire straights before long £78 million wave structure, and even our young, work in progress side beat them.[/p][/quote]£177m in debt Grim,if they don't make the prem asap Admin beckoning, looks like another Portsmouth might happen! ol Arrry is worse than PDC!!!!!![/p][/quote]It's said they will be heavily fined under the wage structure if they don't make it to the premiership. Aappyyy days arry[/p][/quote]Championship side Queens Park Rangers made a loss of over £65m in their accounts for the year to May 2013. QPR spent £41.4m on transfer fees and saw their wage bill increase by almost £17m to £68m in an attempt to avoid relegation from the Premier League. The Loftus Road side's overall debt increased to £177.1m, up from £91.4m in the 2012 accounts. During the accounting period, the number of players, coaches and support staff on the club's books swelled from 84 to 107 Rangers are currently fourth in the Championship, but have little chance of closing a 17-point gap on leaders Leicester with only 14 games still to play, and are nine points adrift of Burnley, who currently occupy the other automatic promotion place. Any team remaining in the second tier that falls foul of FFP rules will be subject to a transfer embargo until they can prove their financial results are in line with the regulations, while a team promoted to the top flight will be subject to a fine, which is operated on a sliding scale[/p][/quote]Wilsey they are doomed laddie doomed[/p][/quote]Looks like they've gambled and may lose?[/p][/quote]Also how can bury afford tommy millers wages?[/p][/quote]I think this exchange on the thread is very pertinent and shows what could happen if you spend what you ain't got. What amazes me is that clubs are able to operate this way without a bank or similar saying NO. I believe the owner at the club has a few quid but is he underwriting it or will he burger off in June ? Many question Lee's logic about running the club sustainably by expecting this player and that to be signed or a "name" brought in to manage the club. Watch QPR for the next few months and think "Do I want that at STFC or would I rather have a club". Interesting that Arry was at Pompey til just before the implosion !!!!! New manager for you Harley and Stranglers, Good Ole Arry should be available soon. COYMR[/p][/quote]Logic??????????????? ?????????????? Good management - that's all we need, top down. stranglers
  • Score: -1

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