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Swindon boss Cooper backs striker Smith to silence his critics

Swindon Advertiser: Michael Smith Michael Smith

SWINDON Town manager Mark Cooper has backed Michael Smith to prove his critics wrong after incurring the wrath of his own team’s fans during the weekend win over Sheffield United.

Cooper felt some of the jeers dealt out to striker Smith from some members of the County Ground crowd on Saturday were unjustified but he does not feel the former Charlton Athletic man will be adversely affected by supporters turning on him in the long run.

While he conceded that the forward’s display was not up to scratch prior to his substitution in the 80th minute, the Robins boss said some of the comments thrown at Smith were “not going to help anyone”.

When asked by the Advertiser what he made of Smith’s performance, Cooper said: “Not great but I don’t think he deserved that. It was so quick to turn. He was trying his socks off, he’s scored quite a few goals in a little amount of games, he’s not played a lot of football as well and he’s still learning.

“We know he’s got to be stronger and we know he’s got to keep hold of the ball but that’s not going to help anyone.

“Gone are the days when we sign players on so many thousand pounds a week who can go and straight away get hold of the ball. We can’t do it. We have to work with young players and make them better.

“You have to be strong. That won’t bother Michael too much, he’ll dust himself down. He’s a tough Geordie boy and as long as we look after him, that’s all that matters.”

Smith has scored six goals in 14 appearances for Swindon since joining for an undisclosed fee - believed to be £100,000 rising to £200,000 - in January.

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7:14am Tue 1 Apr 14

street2000 says...

He will come good in the end. We're not easy to please though! In Ranger we had a scorer and someone who could hold the ball up. Smith can't get the ball to stick to him at the moment. Velcro his legs and the ball - that might help and a relatively cheap option. Mr Power likes the cheap options!
He will come good in the end. We're not easy to please though! In Ranger we had a scorer and someone who could hold the ball up. Smith can't get the ball to stick to him at the moment. Velcro his legs and the ball - that might help and a relatively cheap option. Mr Power likes the cheap options! street2000
  • Score: -10

7:52am Tue 1 Apr 14

Haydonender says...

I thought the criticism was over the top on saturday. He is doing ok, he is no Ranger but he has potential in my eyes. A bit of patience is required and I think he could be a good player for us next season.
I thought the criticism was over the top on saturday. He is doing ok, he is no Ranger but he has potential in my eyes. A bit of patience is required and I think he could be a good player for us next season. Haydonender
  • Score: 37

8:03am Tue 1 Apr 14

Oldhamred says...

street2000 wrote:
He will come good in the end. We're not easy to please though! In Ranger we had a scorer and someone who could hold the ball up. Smith can't get the ball to stick to him at the moment. Velcro his legs and the ball - that might help and a relatively cheap option. Mr Power likes the cheap options!
Street,
considering where we were as a club not much longer than 12 months ago, I think the 'cheap option' is working out pretty well.
And to be fair to Mr Power £100,000 rising to £200,000 isn't a particularly cheap option for a club haemorrhaging money at the alarming rate we were.
Whether it will have been money well spent on this occasion remains to be seen.
An extended run for both Michael and Miles as a two will build confidence in each other, and with confidence the little mistakes will all but disappear. They may form an understanding as a front line which could put us in a very strong position for next season and beyond.
In my opinion it is far too early to be getting on his back as some of our less patient fans did on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]street2000[/bold] wrote: He will come good in the end. We're not easy to please though! In Ranger we had a scorer and someone who could hold the ball up. Smith can't get the ball to stick to him at the moment. Velcro his legs and the ball - that might help and a relatively cheap option. Mr Power likes the cheap options![/p][/quote]Street, considering where we were as a club not much longer than 12 months ago, I think the 'cheap option' is working out pretty well. And to be fair to Mr Power £100,000 rising to £200,000 isn't a particularly cheap option for a club haemorrhaging money at the alarming rate we were. Whether it will have been money well spent on this occasion remains to be seen. An extended run for both Michael and Miles as a two will build confidence in each other, and with confidence the little mistakes will all but disappear. They may form an understanding as a front line which could put us in a very strong position for next season and beyond. In my opinion it is far too early to be getting on his back as some of our less patient fans did on Saturday. Oldhamred
  • Score: 39

8:08am Tue 1 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Haydonender wrote:
I thought the criticism was over the top on saturday. He is doing ok, he is no Ranger but he has potential in my eyes. A bit of patience is required and I think he could be a good player for us next season.
No ranger?
He clearly stated he will step into his boots.
Clearly not.
Stfc forever,
We are Phillips red and white army
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: I thought the criticism was over the top on saturday. He is doing ok, he is no Ranger but he has potential in my eyes. A bit of patience is required and I think he could be a good player for us next season.[/p][/quote]No ranger? He clearly stated he will step into his boots. Clearly not. Stfc forever, We are Phillips red and white army smirg kcab
  • Score: -36

8:15am Tue 1 Apr 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

I don't think Smith is a bad player, but Saturday he wasn't having much of a game, still shouldn't boo our own players.

He wasn't having a good game but he was still putting himself about and chasing everything.

When they are on the pitch they should be supported......
I don't think Smith is a bad player, but Saturday he wasn't having much of a game, still shouldn't boo our own players. He wasn't having a good game but he was still putting himself about and chasing everything. When they are on the pitch they should be supported...... Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 38

8:17am Tue 1 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Save more money power send Pritchard back now.
3 wins without him,
then we could afford Kevin Phillips as player manager next season.
Coymr
Up the town
Save more money power send Pritchard back now. 3 wins without him, then we could afford Kevin Phillips as player manager next season. Coymr Up the town smirg kcab
  • Score: -59

8:24am Tue 1 Apr 14

LeGod says...

I would never boo our own players and those that did are out of order. Smith though is very frustrating to watch and he seriously needs to get some upper body strength as every team we have played so far there cetnre backs have dominated him and the problem is because he cant hold the ball up it puts us under pressure as happenned again on saturday. Im sure with time and during the summer and pre season he will improve and you can see there is potential there.Everyone sat around me in the stands is of the same opinion but fans need to support him and not get on his back as it out of order jeering.
Most of Smiths career has been L2 and the step up is very different to L1 so maybe these games he is having are his learning curve and will be better fro it next season.
All in all though a great team performance saturday and it was good to see.
I would never boo our own players and those that did are out of order. Smith though is very frustrating to watch and he seriously needs to get some upper body strength as every team we have played so far there cetnre backs have dominated him and the problem is because he cant hold the ball up it puts us under pressure as happenned again on saturday. Im sure with time and during the summer and pre season he will improve and you can see there is potential there.Everyone sat around me in the stands is of the same opinion but fans need to support him and not get on his back as it out of order jeering. Most of Smiths career has been L2 and the step up is very different to L1 so maybe these games he is having are his learning curve and will be better fro it next season. All in all though a great team performance saturday and it was good to see. LeGod
  • Score: 18

8:24am Tue 1 Apr 14

stfcdod says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
I don't think Smith is a bad player, but Saturday he wasn't having much of a game, still shouldn't boo our own players.

He wasn't having a good game but he was still putting himself about and chasing everything.

When they are on the pitch they should be supported......
For once I agree with you Lovesey. He didn't have a great game and although he had Miles up front with him, most of the time he was very isolated and had 2/3/4 Sheffield players around him.
Some fans around me started moaning in the first five minutes. Even after that fantastic through ball for the Miles goal they moaned. They probably didn't(want), to see that.
Get off his back as you must really knock any confidence he has.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: I don't think Smith is a bad player, but Saturday he wasn't having much of a game, still shouldn't boo our own players. He wasn't having a good game but he was still putting himself about and chasing everything. When they are on the pitch they should be supported......[/p][/quote]For once I agree with you Lovesey. He didn't have a great game and although he had Miles up front with him, most of the time he was very isolated and had 2/3/4 Sheffield players around him. Some fans around me started moaning in the first five minutes. Even after that fantastic through ball for the Miles goal they moaned. They probably didn't(want), to see that. Get off his back as you must really knock any confidence he has. stfcdod
  • Score: 23

8:37am Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about
.
It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap!
.
All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago!
.
Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit!
.
Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me!
.
As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target
.
That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season
.
Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him
.
Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day!
It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about . It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap! . All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago! . Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit! . Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me! . As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target . That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season . Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him . Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day! London Red
  • Score: 18

8:43am Tue 1 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

London Red wrote:
It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about
.
It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap!
.
All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago!
.
Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit!
.
Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me!
.
As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target
.
That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season
.
Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him
.
Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day!
Yea with storey dropped to accommodate Pritchard, or perhaps he could drop smith also and play our famous 4-6-0
Just a thought
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about . It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap! . All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago! . Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit! . Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me! . As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target . That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season . Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him . Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day![/p][/quote]Yea with storey dropped to accommodate Pritchard, or perhaps he could drop smith also and play our famous 4-6-0 Just a thought smirg kcab
  • Score: -28

9:12am Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Don't think many people are denying that Smith was poor on Saturday. It's a matter of whether you think it's right to give a player merciless stick when he's obviously running his guts out for the club. He's not done too badly in his short time with us. I'd rather have a trier who lacks a few skills than a talented individual who toes the line when he feels like it.
Don't think many people are denying that Smith was poor on Saturday. It's a matter of whether you think it's right to give a player merciless stick when he's obviously running his guts out for the club. He's not done too badly in his short time with us. I'd rather have a trier who lacks a few skills than a talented individual who toes the line when he feels like it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 20

9:19am Tue 1 Apr 14

itslove says...

Doesn't hold the ball up , doesn't use his height , doesn't score enough . What does he expect . Hes paid to score goals . Get a grip . Hes got to fire us to 6th .
Doesn't hold the ball up , doesn't use his height , doesn't score enough . What does he expect . Hes paid to score goals . Get a grip . Hes got to fire us to 6th . itslove
  • Score: -18

9:27am Tue 1 Apr 14

hertz says...

Pritchard will be back a new man and Luongo , just like Wes the break will do them good . COYR
Pritchard will be back a new man and Luongo , just like Wes the break will do them good . COYR hertz
  • Score: 11

9:27am Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

itslove wrote:
Doesn't hold the ball up , doesn't use his height , doesn't score enough . What does he expect . Hes paid to score goals . Get a grip . Hes got to fire us to 6th .
I have a grip on reality.
[quote][p][bold]itslove[/bold] wrote: Doesn't hold the ball up , doesn't use his height , doesn't score enough . What does he expect . Hes paid to score goals . Get a grip . Hes got to fire us to 6th .[/p][/quote]I have a grip on reality. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

9:35am Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
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He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
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Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
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Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
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I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham London Red
  • Score: 8

9:37am Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

Den - don't know why you don't just name Ranger in remark!
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The difference is Ranger has delivered 100% on the pitch - he has never not given hisd shidt out there and was instrumental in our sucess this season
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Off the pitch totally different agree - but it is on the pitch where players are judged and Ranger excels there!
Den - don't know why you don't just name Ranger in remark! . The difference is Ranger has delivered 100% on the pitch - he has never not given hisd shidt out there and was instrumental in our sucess this season . Off the pitch totally different agree - but it is on the pitch where players are judged and Ranger excels there! London Red
  • Score: 19

9:42am Tue 1 Apr 14

bearwoodred says...

felt sorry for Smith on Saturday he had one poor game and people get on his case! Would boo Ranger if he had an off day and we should be encouraging our players.

Smith has scored 6 from 13, Ranger scored 8 from 25 and Ajose 8 from 13 so he is not doing too bad. His hold up play is not even close to Ranger but then he was a premier league player no one else would touch!!!! Smith needs a different type of service, put him on the end of the Ritchie/Caddis service and he would be ideal!
felt sorry for Smith on Saturday he had one poor game and people get on his case! Would boo Ranger if he had an off day and we should be encouraging our players. Smith has scored 6 from 13, Ranger scored 8 from 25 and Ajose 8 from 13 so he is not doing too bad. His hold up play is not even close to Ranger but then he was a premier league player no one else would touch!!!! Smith needs a different type of service, put him on the end of the Ritchie/Caddis service and he would be ideal! bearwoodred
  • Score: 10

9:43am Tue 1 Apr 14

port de soller says...

Just give the lad a break he will come good.He has scored a few goals so he aint no NR yet for a young man feel his attitude is right
so come on STFC fans just wait and see,we are safe in the div now,OK dreams about play offs again who know´s
In my opinion and on budgtet they had wow they have done well
Just give the lad a break he will come good.He has scored a few goals so he aint no NR yet for a young man feel his attitude is right so come on STFC fans just wait and see,we are safe in the div now,OK dreams about play offs again who know´s In my opinion and on budgtet they had wow they have done well port de soller
  • Score: 7

9:44am Tue 1 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Don't think many people are denying that Smith was poor on Saturday. It's a matter of whether you think it's right to give a player merciless stick when he's obviously running his guts out for the club. He's not done too badly in his short time with us. I'd rather have a trier who lacks a few skills than a talented individual who toes the line when he feels like it.
So what your saying Den? is you'd rather have Smith than Ranger? Well it is April fools day! so I'll give you that one lol!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Don't think many people are denying that Smith was poor on Saturday. It's a matter of whether you think it's right to give a player merciless stick when he's obviously running his guts out for the club. He's not done too badly in his short time with us. I'd rather have a trier who lacks a few skills than a talented individual who toes the line when he feels like it.[/p][/quote]So what your saying Den? is you'd rather have Smith than Ranger? Well it is April fools day! so I'll give you that one lol!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 9

10:02am Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

If Ranger is fit, interested and abiding by the same rules as the rest of the players, then of course he has to play. He's one of the finest strikers we've ever had. Sadly though he's only with us because he brings problems wherever he goes.

I do get pi55ed off when I hear excessive moaning about players who are trying their best and respecting the club, while someone like Ranger gets lauded at every opportunity.
If Ranger is fit, interested and abiding by the same rules as the rest of the players, then of course he has to play. He's one of the finest strikers we've ever had. Sadly though he's only with us because he brings problems wherever he goes. I do get pi55ed off when I hear excessive moaning about players who are trying their best and respecting the club, while someone like Ranger gets lauded at every opportunity. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

10:33am Tue 1 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

London Red wrote:
It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about . It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap! . All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago! . Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit! . Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me! . As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target . That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season . Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him . Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day!
Whipping him off earlier to leave Walden and Storey to hold the ball up against the gorilla's !

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about . It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap! . All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago! . Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit! . Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me! . As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target . That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season . Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him . Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day![/p][/quote]Whipping him off earlier to leave Walden and Storey to hold the ball up against the gorilla's ! COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 5

10:44am Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Exactly, Oxon. The one thing we know for sure about Saturday is we got 3 points. It's all very well saying Cooper should have done this or that but who knows whether we'd have won if Cooper had done the substitutions differently. I completely disagree with LR (not for the first time, I know!). The manager has to be strong enough to resist the crowd's demands for a player to be taken off. I thought Cooper got it dead right on Saturday. That shank at the Town End showed Smith's confidence was shot to pieces. It was the right time for him to be subbed.
Exactly, Oxon. The one thing we know for sure about Saturday is we got 3 points. It's all very well saying Cooper should have done this or that but who knows whether we'd have won if Cooper had done the substitutions differently. I completely disagree with LR (not for the first time, I know!). The manager has to be strong enough to resist the crowd's demands for a player to be taken off. I thought Cooper got it dead right on Saturday. That shank at the Town End showed Smith's confidence was shot to pieces. It was the right time for him to be subbed. Oi Den!
  • Score: 12

11:27am Tue 1 Apr 14

Old-Stager, Hilperton says...

I certainly didn't "boo" Michael Smith on Saturday, because he wasn't our worst player; that award for me was given to Yaser Kasim who needs dropping from the team for a few games.
Michael Smith's goal tally so far is fairly good and I certainly hope that he makes the grade with us.
To be perfectly honest I am guessing that Lee Power is having second thoughts at the moment, as to whether Michael was worth £100,000 plus, and whether there were better options around at the time of his purchase ?
Of course it doesn't help when the frustrations of the Town Fans suddenly surface during a close and tense game like last week-end, but in the heat of the moment our own fans are no different than any other League Team's
fans, and this will always happen.
To conclude I would say that given his non-league background and late development, I really hope that he becomes a success story with Swindon Town, but at this stage I think the jury is still out.
I certainly didn't "boo" Michael Smith on Saturday, because he wasn't our worst player; that award for me was given to Yaser Kasim who needs dropping from the team for a few games. Michael Smith's goal tally so far is fairly good and I certainly hope that he makes the grade with us. To be perfectly honest I am guessing that Lee Power is having second thoughts at the moment, as to whether Michael was worth £100,000 plus, and whether there were better options around at the time of his purchase ? Of course it doesn't help when the frustrations of the Town Fans suddenly surface during a close and tense game like last week-end, but in the heat of the moment our own fans are no different than any other League Team's fans, and this will always happen. To conclude I would say that given his non-league background and late development, I really hope that he becomes a success story with Swindon Town, but at this stage I think the jury is still out. Old-Stager, Hilperton
  • Score: 2

12:51pm Tue 1 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
I certainly didn't "boo" Michael Smith on Saturday, because he wasn't our worst player; that award for me was given to Yaser Kasim who needs dropping from the team for a few games.
Michael Smith's goal tally so far is fairly good and I certainly hope that he makes the grade with us.
To be perfectly honest I am guessing that Lee Power is having second thoughts at the moment, as to whether Michael was worth £100,000 plus, and whether there were better options around at the time of his purchase ?
Of course it doesn't help when the frustrations of the Town Fans suddenly surface during a close and tense game like last week-end, but in the heat of the moment our own fans are no different than any other League Team's
fans, and this will always happen.
To conclude I would say that given his non-league background and late development, I really hope that he becomes a success story with Swindon Town, but at this stage I think the jury is still out.
I agree old-stager,since Yaser has become an international player for that world football power house Iraq! he's gone downhill faster than Franz Klammer! yes he should be dropped and kicked up the @ss, as for Smiffy he works hard and tries his best,but must work on his skills, but in professional football there's nowhere to hide,when your having a mare the fans will soon let you know(that's the cruel world of football) you simply have to take it on the chin and prove them wrong!just like Fodds who had some sticky games,now he's back to his best and the best keeper in the division £2m anyone???????
[quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: I certainly didn't "boo" Michael Smith on Saturday, because he wasn't our worst player; that award for me was given to Yaser Kasim who needs dropping from the team for a few games. Michael Smith's goal tally so far is fairly good and I certainly hope that he makes the grade with us. To be perfectly honest I am guessing that Lee Power is having second thoughts at the moment, as to whether Michael was worth £100,000 plus, and whether there were better options around at the time of his purchase ? Of course it doesn't help when the frustrations of the Town Fans suddenly surface during a close and tense game like last week-end, but in the heat of the moment our own fans are no different than any other League Team's fans, and this will always happen. To conclude I would say that given his non-league background and late development, I really hope that he becomes a success story with Swindon Town, but at this stage I think the jury is still out.[/p][/quote]I agree old-stager,since Yaser has become an international player for that world football power house Iraq! he's gone downhill faster than Franz Klammer! yes he should be dropped and kicked up the @ss, as for Smiffy he works hard and tries his best,but must work on his skills, but in professional football there's nowhere to hide,when your having a mare the fans will soon let you know(that's the cruel world of football) you simply have to take it on the chin and prove them wrong!just like Fodds who had some sticky games,now he's back to his best and the best keeper in the division £2m anyone??????? the don69
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Don, I accept that footballers have to put up with some stick. I just think we have to make some allowances for the circumstances - ours and Smith's. We can't afford to buy star players and we won't improve our prospects or Smith's if we give him abuse every time he makes a mistake.

I though Kasim had a decent first half on Saturday, then looked sh@gged in the second half. The stupid booking might have come out of the frustration of struggling to compete.
Don, I accept that footballers have to put up with some stick. I just think we have to make some allowances for the circumstances - ours and Smith's. We can't afford to buy star players and we won't improve our prospects or Smith's if we give him abuse every time he makes a mistake. I though Kasim had a decent first half on Saturday, then looked sh@gged in the second half. The stupid booking might have come out of the frustration of struggling to compete. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

1:44pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Wilesy says...

I think Smith is doing fine - a good scoring record, creating goals too and running his socks off every game. He is better at holding it up than any of strikers last year but because he's not as good as Ranger is coming in for stick which is harsh. Based on his scoring rate wherever he's been he would be good for 20 goals a season over a full season, I'm not sure what more people want!

The difference between say Austin and Ranger to Smith is that the first two are outstanding in one area of their game - Austin in his finishing, Ranger in holding the ball up. Smith is not outstanding in any area at this stage but I can count on one hand the players I've seen in League 1 this year that are outstanding. Ranger, Assombalonga and Sako I would class at that level but look at their pedigree / cost / value. Donaldson last season was impressibve, then maybe Ali at MK Dons and McGuire at Sheff Utd, also Emmauel Thomas in City game 1 but not in game 2 where he was poor.
I think Smith is doing fine - a good scoring record, creating goals too and running his socks off every game. He is better at holding it up than any of strikers last year but because he's not as good as Ranger is coming in for stick which is harsh. Based on his scoring rate wherever he's been he would be good for 20 goals a season over a full season, I'm not sure what more people want! The difference between say Austin and Ranger to Smith is that the first two are outstanding in one area of their game - Austin in his finishing, Ranger in holding the ball up. Smith is not outstanding in any area at this stage but I can count on one hand the players I've seen in League 1 this year that are outstanding. Ranger, Assombalonga and Sako I would class at that level but look at their pedigree / cost / value. Donaldson last season was impressibve, then maybe Ali at MK Dons and McGuire at Sheff Utd, also Emmauel Thomas in City game 1 but not in game 2 where he was poor. Wilesy
  • Score: 4

1:57pm Tue 1 Apr 14

swindonurock says...

Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at.

Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail.

Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway.

Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not.

Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class.

I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer.

Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.
Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at. Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail. Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway. Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not. Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class. I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer. Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players. swindonurock
  • Score: 13

2:17pm Tue 1 Apr 14

MITTED says...

Smith is a poorly skilled footballer for L1 level based on what we have seen of him so far, ie. he couldn't trap a bag of cement. Yes, he runs about a lot but so would a die-hard Town fan given the opportunity to wear the shirt but that doesn't mean that fan would be any good! But that does not excuse booing any player, especially a young one.
COYR
Smith is a poorly skilled footballer for L1 level based on what we have seen of him so far, ie. he couldn't trap a bag of cement. Yes, he runs about a lot but so would a die-hard Town fan given the opportunity to wear the shirt but that doesn't mean that fan would be any good! But that does not excuse booing any player, especially a young one. COYR MITTED
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Tue 1 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

swindonurock wrote:
Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at.

Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail.

Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway.

Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not.

Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class.

I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer.

Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.
Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game.
We are winners
Winners 2-1 winners
[quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at. Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail. Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway. Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not. Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class. I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer. Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game. We are winners Winners 2-1 winners smirg kcab
  • Score: -15

2:46pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Bassett Hound says...

MITTED wrote:
Smith is a poorly skilled footballer for L1 level based on what we have seen of him so far, ie. he couldn't trap a bag of cement. Yes, he runs about a lot but so would a die-hard Town fan given the opportunity to wear the shirt but that doesn't mean that fan would be any good! But that does not excuse booing any player, especially a young one.
COYR
He does more than run around Mitted he has scored 15 times this year, you cannot discount that. He does appear to know where the goal is,and I think he will get better
[quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: Smith is a poorly skilled footballer for L1 level based on what we have seen of him so far, ie. he couldn't trap a bag of cement. Yes, he runs about a lot but so would a die-hard Town fan given the opportunity to wear the shirt but that doesn't mean that fan would be any good! But that does not excuse booing any player, especially a young one. COYR[/p][/quote]He does more than run around Mitted he has scored 15 times this year, you cannot discount that. He does appear to know where the goal is,and I think he will get better Bassett Hound
  • Score: 3

2:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

uruguay whitey the red says...

bit rich when puppet cooper moans about the fans yet again,no one got on smiths case on Saturday,if anything its puppet slagging off the forwards about not being strong enough or holding the ball up!,glad to see miles stuffing his comments down his throat about being just an over the top chasing the ball forward!long may it continue.perhaps work on the players fitness a bit more as they look shattered after 70 minutes almost every match.
bit rich when puppet cooper moans about the fans yet again,no one got on smiths case on Saturday,if anything its puppet slagging off the forwards about not being strong enough or holding the ball up!,glad to see miles stuffing his comments down his throat about being just an over the top chasing the ball forward!long may it continue.perhaps work on the players fitness a bit more as they look shattered after 70 minutes almost every match. uruguay whitey the red
  • Score: -8

3:26pm Tue 1 Apr 14

swindonurock says...

smirg kcab wrote:
swindonurock wrote:
Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at.

Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail.

Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway.

Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not.

Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class.

I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer.

Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.
Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game.
We are winners
Winners 2-1 winners
If you think that Cooper's tactics are in any way related to what the fans (and so-called fans) are doing then you're quite deluded.

Cooper will do whatever Cooper does, regardless of whatever the crowd is doing, but suffice it to say that booing and jeering has no place at STFC or anywhere.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at. Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail. Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway. Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not. Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class. I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer. Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game. We are winners Winners 2-1 winners[/p][/quote]If you think that Cooper's tactics are in any way related to what the fans (and so-called fans) are doing then you're quite deluded. Cooper will do whatever Cooper does, regardless of whatever the crowd is doing, but suffice it to say that booing and jeering has no place at STFC or anywhere. swindonurock
  • Score: 10

3:27pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

smirg kcab wrote:
swindonurock wrote:
Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at.

Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail.

Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway.

Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not.

Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class.

I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer.

Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.
Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game.
We are winners
Winners 2-1 winners
Grim, I hope it didn't get the message to Cooper. I hope he made his own mind up. He's had enough stick for being "unable to change a game". A bit of credit is due to him for collecting another unlikely (in my view) three points - from a game that seemed to have slipped away from us.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at. Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail. Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway. Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not. Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class. I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer. Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game. We are winners Winners 2-1 winners[/p][/quote]Grim, I hope it didn't get the message to Cooper. I hope he made his own mind up. He's had enough stick for being "unable to change a game". A bit of credit is due to him for collecting another unlikely (in my view) three points - from a game that seemed to have slipped away from us. Oi Den!
  • Score: 8

3:33pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Swindon1984 says...

itslove wrote:
Doesn't hold the ball up , doesn't use his height , doesn't score enough . What does he expect . Hes paid to score goals . Get a grip . Hes got to fire us to 6th .
Doesn't score enough? Six in fourteen definitely not a bad return.

Doesn't hold the ball up? He's no Ranger but you can only hold the ball up so long before being dispossessed if you have no-one to lay it off to, and often as a team we're too slow moving up and down the pitch.

Doesn't use his height? Maybe not enough I'll grant you, but not every big player is good with their head.

As others have said I'd rather a player out there who looks interested and will work hard. Smith does that and also scores a decent amount of goals per game compared with other forwards we've had. It's early days for him at this level and with that in mind he's made a productive start. A few aspects of his game to work on no question but the way some go on you'd think he was another Pericard.
[quote][p][bold]itslove[/bold] wrote: Doesn't hold the ball up , doesn't use his height , doesn't score enough . What does he expect . Hes paid to score goals . Get a grip . Hes got to fire us to 6th .[/p][/quote]Doesn't score enough? Six in fourteen definitely not a bad return. Doesn't hold the ball up? He's no Ranger but you can only hold the ball up so long before being dispossessed if you have no-one to lay it off to, and often as a team we're too slow moving up and down the pitch. Doesn't use his height? Maybe not enough I'll grant you, but not every big player is good with their head. As others have said I'd rather a player out there who looks interested and will work hard. Smith does that and also scores a decent amount of goals per game compared with other forwards we've had. It's early days for him at this level and with that in mind he's made a productive start. A few aspects of his game to work on no question but the way some go on you'd think he was another Pericard. Swindon1984
  • Score: 4

4:11pm Tue 1 Apr 14

bearwoodred says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Don, I accept that footballers have to put up with some stick. I just think we have to make some allowances for the circumstances - ours and Smith's. We can't afford to buy star players and we won't improve our prospects or Smith's if we give him abuse every time he makes a mistake.

I though Kasim had a decent first half on Saturday, then looked sh@gged in the second half. The stupid booking might have come out of the frustration of struggling to compete.
I thought Kasim played well on Saturday as well, made more tackles than anyone else and won the ball alot. Ran hard and did clearly tire but to be expecrted. The bloke in front of me was getting wound up really badly by him when he did not go forward but for me he never gave the ball away. Could be a bit more positive and times- for me its a confidence thing to play a few tellling passes, something that Gladwin is willing to try. Kasim will be a big player for us next season.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Don, I accept that footballers have to put up with some stick. I just think we have to make some allowances for the circumstances - ours and Smith's. We can't afford to buy star players and we won't improve our prospects or Smith's if we give him abuse every time he makes a mistake. I though Kasim had a decent first half on Saturday, then looked sh@gged in the second half. The stupid booking might have come out of the frustration of struggling to compete.[/p][/quote]I thought Kasim played well on Saturday as well, made more tackles than anyone else and won the ball alot. Ran hard and did clearly tire but to be expecrted. The bloke in front of me was getting wound up really badly by him when he did not go forward but for me he never gave the ball away. Could be a bit more positive and times- for me its a confidence thing to play a few tellling passes, something that Gladwin is willing to try. Kasim will be a big player for us next season. bearwoodred
  • Score: 5

4:26pm Tue 1 Apr 14

rockdog says...

Has anyone given any thoughts to the retained list for next season? How about
Foderingham; Belford
Thomson (N); Byrne; McEveley; Bartram
Archibald-Henville; Branco; Stephens (if we can get him on a season-long loan)
Luongo; Kasim; Thompson (L); Cox; Harley; Smith (A); Agombar; Gladwin;
Freitas Reis; Pritchard (for season-long loan if possible)
Ranger (hopefully); Smith (M); Storey; Barker
I know Coops has said about 20 but this is only 23. A young team with a lot to prove and now they have got a bit of experience will surprise everybody
Has anyone given any thoughts to the retained list for next season? How about Foderingham; Belford Thomson (N); Byrne; McEveley; Bartram Archibald-Henville; Branco; Stephens (if we can get him on a season-long loan) Luongo; Kasim; Thompson (L); Cox; Harley; Smith (A); Agombar; Gladwin; Freitas Reis; Pritchard (for season-long loan if possible) Ranger (hopefully); Smith (M); Storey; Barker I know Coops has said about 20 but this is only 23. A young team with a lot to prove and now they have got a bit of experience will surprise everybody rockdog
  • Score: -2

4:30pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Swindon1984 says...

bearwoodred wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Don, I accept that footballers have to put up with some stick. I just think we have to make some allowances for the circumstances - ours and Smith's. We can't afford to buy star players and we won't improve our prospects or Smith's if we give him abuse every time he makes a mistake.

I though Kasim had a decent first half on Saturday, then looked sh@gged in the second half. The stupid booking might have come out of the frustration of struggling to compete.
I thought Kasim played well on Saturday as well, made more tackles than anyone else and won the ball alot. Ran hard and did clearly tire but to be expecrted. The bloke in front of me was getting wound up really badly by him when he did not go forward but for me he never gave the ball away. Could be a bit more positive and times- for me its a confidence thing to play a few tellling passes, something that Gladwin is willing to try. Kasim will be a big player for us next season.
Kasim definitely tired towards the end but he did put a lot of effort in. Not a big advocate of squad rotation but we probably need to take into account the lack of professional matches some of these lads have had. Sure there'll be a difference next season with some experience gained this term.
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Don, I accept that footballers have to put up with some stick. I just think we have to make some allowances for the circumstances - ours and Smith's. We can't afford to buy star players and we won't improve our prospects or Smith's if we give him abuse every time he makes a mistake. I though Kasim had a decent first half on Saturday, then looked sh@gged in the second half. The stupid booking might have come out of the frustration of struggling to compete.[/p][/quote]I thought Kasim played well on Saturday as well, made more tackles than anyone else and won the ball alot. Ran hard and did clearly tire but to be expecrted. The bloke in front of me was getting wound up really badly by him when he did not go forward but for me he never gave the ball away. Could be a bit more positive and times- for me its a confidence thing to play a few tellling passes, something that Gladwin is willing to try. Kasim will be a big player for us next season.[/p][/quote]Kasim definitely tired towards the end but he did put a lot of effort in. Not a big advocate of squad rotation but we probably need to take into account the lack of professional matches some of these lads have had. Sure there'll be a difference next season with some experience gained this term. Swindon1984
  • Score: 3

4:40pm Tue 1 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

swindonurock wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
swindonurock wrote:
Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at.

Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail.

Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway.

Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not.

Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class.

I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer.

Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.
Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game.
We are winners
Winners 2-1 winners
If you think that Cooper's tactics are in any way related to what the fans (and so-called fans) are doing then you're quite deluded.

Cooper will do whatever Cooper does, regardless of whatever the crowd is doing, but suffice it to say that booing and jeering has no place at STFC or anywhere.
Think your deluded
Cooper never reverted to that pathetic 4-6-0 formation when every fan including myself booed and jeered cooper at Sheffield?
Booing is welcome at any ground including the delapatated county ground.
I suppose you (so called fan, as you put it) didn't go?
So you find it acceptable for no players not to try
Deluded lol
Top post happy clapper
[quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at. Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail. Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway. Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not. Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class. I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer. Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game. We are winners Winners 2-1 winners[/p][/quote]If you think that Cooper's tactics are in any way related to what the fans (and so-called fans) are doing then you're quite deluded. Cooper will do whatever Cooper does, regardless of whatever the crowd is doing, but suffice it to say that booing and jeering has no place at STFC or anywhere.[/p][/quote]Think your deluded Cooper never reverted to that pathetic 4-6-0 formation when every fan including myself booed and jeered cooper at Sheffield? Booing is welcome at any ground including the delapatated county ground. I suppose you (so called fan, as you put it) didn't go? So you find it acceptable for no players not to try Deluded lol Top post happy clapper smirg kcab
  • Score: -18

4:42pm Tue 1 Apr 14

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Save more money power send Pritchard back now.
3 wins without him,
then we could afford Kevin Phillips as player manager next season.
Coymr
Up the town
How many player managers are there in the modern game ?
Difficult task nowadays combining both.

Macari era was different.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Save more money power send Pritchard back now. 3 wins without him, then we could afford Kevin Phillips as player manager next season. Coymr Up the town[/p][/quote]How many player managers are there in the modern game ? Difficult task nowadays combining both. Macari era was different. TheDukeOfBanbury
  • Score: 2

5:26pm Tue 1 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

All Saturday was frustration, that we were playing well and blew a good chance by woeful crossing and some poor play in general.
Most of us fans know it was just a real poor game he had and that is all as indicated by the round of applause he got when he got subbed.
All Saturday was frustration, that we were playing well and blew a good chance by woeful crossing and some poor play in general. Most of us fans know it was just a real poor game he had and that is all as indicated by the round of applause he got when he got subbed. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Cleuso says...

smirg kcab wrote:
swindonurock wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
swindonurock wrote:
Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at.

Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail.

Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway.

Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not.

Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class.

I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer.

Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.
Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game.
We are winners
Winners 2-1 winners
If you think that Cooper's tactics are in any way related to what the fans (and so-called fans) are doing then you're quite deluded.

Cooper will do whatever Cooper does, regardless of whatever the crowd is doing, but suffice it to say that booing and jeering has no place at STFC or anywhere.
Think your deluded
Cooper never reverted to that pathetic 4-6-0 formation when every fan including myself booed and jeered cooper at Sheffield?
Booing is welcome at any ground including the delapatated county ground.
I suppose you (so called fan, as you put it) didn't go?
So you find it acceptable for no players not to try
Deluded lol
Top post happy clapper
But then again smirg kcab you seem to live in a sad sad world....guess you just like stewing in your own negativity and get some obtuse pleasure form that . Happy days eh ?
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonurock[/bold] wrote: Booing and jeering one's own team is for losers. It always says much more about those doing the booing than those it is directed at. Is it meant to encourage someone to do better? Fail. Is it meant to vent frustration after having forked out a few quid for a ticket? Find a better way, because you make yourself look stupid, and it doesn't help anyone anyway. Will it really help the team do the best they can? Of course not. Anyone who boos their own team, or a player on their own team, is a failure themselves. In fact, even booing the opposition shows no class. I'd rather see fewer spectators, but at least ones that cheer and not jeer. Smith is doing fine. Encourage him, as you should encourage all our players.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the fans ( me not included) are winners not losers after all it got the message to cooper, then we went on to win the game. We are winners Winners 2-1 winners[/p][/quote]If you think that Cooper's tactics are in any way related to what the fans (and so-called fans) are doing then you're quite deluded. Cooper will do whatever Cooper does, regardless of whatever the crowd is doing, but suffice it to say that booing and jeering has no place at STFC or anywhere.[/p][/quote]Think your deluded Cooper never reverted to that pathetic 4-6-0 formation when every fan including myself booed and jeered cooper at Sheffield? Booing is welcome at any ground including the delapatated county ground. I suppose you (so called fan, as you put it) didn't go? So you find it acceptable for no players not to try Deluded lol Top post happy clapper[/p][/quote]But then again smirg kcab you seem to live in a sad sad world....guess you just like stewing in your own negativity and get some obtuse pleasure form that . Happy days eh ? Cleuso
  • Score: 5

5:56pm Tue 1 Apr 14

the wizard says...

London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
No great stakes there, the team almost picks itself, but when Pritchard is available again I would start him off the bench. He and others have got to learn the folly of their ways and abusing refs and having a stack of yellow cards through the season, many of them through back chatting officials is simple not good enough.
He may be a good player but he needs to grow up, and if Storey had to wait his turn to get a place at his own club through what ever means then the flippin loan players can do the same.
Storey needs the experience of playing with these guys to find his weak points so he can improve on them, being a sub and coming on for a limited time is not going to provide that. Storey is odds on to be here next season, Pritchard not being our player so we cannot guarantee that.
This is not Pritchard bashing, its making a case for OUR OWN PLAYERS so they can develop and they will not do that sat on the bench. Once you have your abacus beads around that, things will be fine.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]No great stakes there, the team almost picks itself, but when Pritchard is available again I would start him off the bench. He and others have got to learn the folly of their ways and abusing refs and having a stack of yellow cards through the season, many of them through back chatting officials is simple not good enough. He may be a good player but he needs to grow up, and if Storey had to wait his turn to get a place at his own club through what ever means then the flippin loan players can do the same. Storey needs the experience of playing with these guys to find his weak points so he can improve on them, being a sub and coming on for a limited time is not going to provide that. Storey is odds on to be here next season, Pritchard not being our player so we cannot guarantee that. This is not Pritchard bashing, its making a case for OUR OWN PLAYERS so they can develop and they will not do that sat on the bench. Once you have your abacus beads around that, things will be fine. the wizard
  • Score: 3

6:21pm Tue 1 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

As I have said before , young players thrive on confidence , booing them can only have the adverse effect. Good to see both our goals on sat. were scored by 2 lads , product of our own youth policy , lets have more of this , in fact would love to see a continued assembly line of home produced youngsters of the quality of the thompsons and storey coming through the ranks.
As I have said before , young players thrive on confidence , booing them can only have the adverse effect. Good to see both our goals on sat. were scored by 2 lads , product of our own youth policy , lets have more of this , in fact would love to see a continued assembly line of home produced youngsters of the quality of the thompsons and storey coming through the ranks. lifelong red
  • Score: 4

7:09pm Tue 1 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped.
Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season.
Does Pritchard also have most bookings?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped. Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season. Does Pritchard also have most bookings? swwindon61uk
  • Score: 2

7:19pm Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about . It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap! . All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago! . Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit! . Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me! . As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target . That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season . Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him . Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day!
Whipping him off earlier to leave Walden and Storey to hold the ball up against the gorilla's !

COYMR
Which is exactly what did happen - and they seemed fine to me!
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If we are not to prepared to play Walden then there is no point him being in the squad fullstop!
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That doesn't mean he should start every week - but if never going to play at all then what's the point of him being selected?
.
Alternatively he could have used Barker and changed our style!
.
We could play it short to feet or look to play it through on the ground - negating the need for a big man as such
.
Both our goals came that way!
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: It does annoy me when the "cheap option" quote gets thrown about . It is not a "cheap option" to realise that you can't keep spending £1-2m a season more than you earn without someone with over £100m to their name prepared to plug that gap! . All Power is doing is his job - making sure we only spend what we earn so we do not need to sell players on the cheap anymore and more importantly have no threat of going under - like we were very close to doing just over a year ago! . Also he has covered losses to the tune of £750k this season due to the left overs from the last campaign and has spent about the same amount on transfer fees (granted some came from sales - but he still reinvested rather than "line his own pockets"). He then has offered the fans ST at a lower price with 10 months interest free credit! . Doesn't sound like a cheap money making purchase to me! . As for Smith appreciate he is new to the game and learning still - but he was poor on Sat and not sure why some find that hard to see. No control and sime passes going anywhere but their target . That doesn't mean he won't come good and more than happy for him to be 2nd or 3rd striker next season . Just fled Cooper could have helped him by whipping him off earlier - if you sense the crowd turning then act - don't wait for them to turn - it was obvious he was not going to turn that game around so take the pressure off him . Then have a word and simy say it just one of those games - Carlisle will be a different day![/p][/quote]Whipping him off earlier to leave Walden and Storey to hold the ball up against the gorilla's ! COYMR[/p][/quote]Which is exactly what did happen - and they seemed fine to me! . If we are not to prepared to play Walden then there is no point him being in the squad fullstop! . That doesn't mean he should start every week - but if never going to play at all then what's the point of him being selected? . Alternatively he could have used Barker and changed our style! . We could play it short to feet or look to play it through on the ground - negating the need for a big man as such . Both our goals came that way! London Red
  • Score: 0

7:21pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Cleuso says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped.
Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season.
Does Pritchard also have most bookings?
Do you know Pritchard isn't going to be here next season ?
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped. Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season. Does Pritchard also have most bookings?[/p][/quote]Do you know Pritchard isn't going to be here next season ? Cleuso
  • Score: 2

7:32pm Tue 1 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

Cleuso wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped.
Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season.
Does Pritchard also have most bookings?
Do you know Pritchard isn't going to be here next season ?
I have no idea but i think the club might know,also keep hearing he is a Championship player,so just assuming he will not be here.
But just supposing he is staying i would still keep the same team that played Saturday,would you?
Cox they are deciding whether to keep or not,so needs to play and of it is anything to go by Saturday he will be signed IMHO.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped. Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season. Does Pritchard also have most bookings?[/p][/quote]Do you know Pritchard isn't going to be here next season ?[/p][/quote]I have no idea but i think the club might know,also keep hearing he is a Championship player,so just assuming he will not be here. But just supposing he is staying i would still keep the same team that played Saturday,would you? Cox they are deciding whether to keep or not,so needs to play and of it is anything to go by Saturday he will be signed IMHO. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

7:33pm Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped.
Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season.
Does Pritchard also have most bookings?
I did say Kasim should be dropped the most as I too thought he had a poor game on Sat - number of times he was too slow to release the ball which cost is a potential attack
.
My caveat was if Cox is on his was should we play him over another of a similar nature? Louis Thompson should not be on the bench!
.
However - I don't think it should be Gladwin and Lious as too inexperienced and with the POs a chance again too much at stake to play them
.
That's why I suggested keeping Kasim in as he has played pretty much all year
.
Pritchard offers something different to the 4 who played on Sat - which is why I think he should come in even though he probably won't be here next year
.
Plus being one of the best in the entire league could give us that little extra to get 6th???
.
However Liongo also offers a more forward thrust - so if he is fit I'd be happy with him in and Pritchard on the bench.
.
Think he is still behind Kasim on that front!
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped. Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season. Does Pritchard also have most bookings?[/p][/quote]I did say Kasim should be dropped the most as I too thought he had a poor game on Sat - number of times he was too slow to release the ball which cost is a potential attack . My caveat was if Cox is on his was should we play him over another of a similar nature? Louis Thompson should not be on the bench! . However - I don't think it should be Gladwin and Lious as too inexperienced and with the POs a chance again too much at stake to play them . That's why I suggested keeping Kasim in as he has played pretty much all year . Pritchard offers something different to the 4 who played on Sat - which is why I think he should come in even though he probably won't be here next year . Plus being one of the best in the entire league could give us that little extra to get 6th??? . However Liongo also offers a more forward thrust - so if he is fit I'd be happy with him in and Pritchard on the bench. . Think he is still behind Kasim on that front! London Red
  • Score: 1

7:34pm Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

the wizard wrote:
London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
No great stakes there, the team almost picks itself, but when Pritchard is available again I would start him off the bench. He and others have got to learn the folly of their ways and abusing refs and having a stack of yellow cards through the season, many of them through back chatting officials is simple not good enough.
He may be a good player but he needs to grow up, and if Storey had to wait his turn to get a place at his own club through what ever means then the flippin loan players can do the same.
Storey needs the experience of playing with these guys to find his weak points so he can improve on them, being a sub and coming on for a limited time is not going to provide that. Storey is odds on to be here next season, Pritchard not being our player so we cannot guarantee that.
This is not Pritchard bashing, its making a case for OUR OWN PLAYERS so they can develop and they will not do that sat on the bench. Once you have your abacus beads around that, things will be fine.
When you grow up I might take your post seriously!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]No great stakes there, the team almost picks itself, but when Pritchard is available again I would start him off the bench. He and others have got to learn the folly of their ways and abusing refs and having a stack of yellow cards through the season, many of them through back chatting officials is simple not good enough. He may be a good player but he needs to grow up, and if Storey had to wait his turn to get a place at his own club through what ever means then the flippin loan players can do the same. Storey needs the experience of playing with these guys to find his weak points so he can improve on them, being a sub and coming on for a limited time is not going to provide that. Storey is odds on to be here next season, Pritchard not being our player so we cannot guarantee that. This is not Pritchard bashing, its making a case for OUR OWN PLAYERS so they can develop and they will not do that sat on the bench. Once you have your abacus beads around that, things will be fine.[/p][/quote]When you grow up I might take your post seriously! London Red
  • Score: -6

7:38pm Tue 1 Apr 14

London Red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped.
Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season.
Does Pritchard also have most bookings?
Do you know Pritchard isn't going to be here next season ?
I have no idea but i think the club might know,also keep hearing he is a Championship player,so just assuming he will not be here.
But just supposing he is staying i would still keep the same team that played Saturday,would you?
Cox they are deciding whether to keep or not,so needs to play and of it is anything to go by Saturday he will be signed IMHO.
I wouldn't keep the midfield the same
.
Thought we lacked an attacking thrust - thus the forwards isolated!
.
Pritchard OR Luongo need to come in to add that thrust
.
If supported by 2 workers we should be fine with a 5212
.
I guess if Cox is agreeable on much reduced wages then yes play him and make a decision - if he is not prepared to potentially half his wages or more - then there is no point IMO as we have others like Thompson, Kasim and Gladwin who can play that role - who are all here next year
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]Team should be exactly the same as Saturday,no way Cox deserves to get dropped. Like i said before i'd rather they not play Pritchard the rest of the season if he is not going to be here next season. Does Pritchard also have most bookings?[/p][/quote]Do you know Pritchard isn't going to be here next season ?[/p][/quote]I have no idea but i think the club might know,also keep hearing he is a Championship player,so just assuming he will not be here. But just supposing he is staying i would still keep the same team that played Saturday,would you? Cox they are deciding whether to keep or not,so needs to play and of it is anything to go by Saturday he will be signed IMHO.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't keep the midfield the same . Thought we lacked an attacking thrust - thus the forwards isolated! . Pritchard OR Luongo need to come in to add that thrust . If supported by 2 workers we should be fine with a 5212 . I guess if Cox is agreeable on much reduced wages then yes play him and make a decision - if he is not prepared to potentially half his wages or more - then there is no point IMO as we have others like Thompson, Kasim and Gladwin who can play that role - who are all here next year London Red
  • Score: 2

7:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Wayne Allison Bromham says...

Looks like a big waste of money. Dreadful first touch. Where's Reis these days?
Looks like a big waste of money. Dreadful first touch. Where's Reis these days? Wayne Allison Bromham
  • Score: -2

7:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

the wizard says...

London Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
London Red wrote:
Don't get all this Pritchard bashing!
.
He has been our best and most consistent performer this season
.
He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs"
.
Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing?
.
Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it
.
I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward
.
Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out
.
Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle:
.
Wes
N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne
L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim
Storey M.Smith
.
Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham
No great stakes there, the team almost picks itself, but when Pritchard is available again I would start him off the bench. He and others have got to learn the folly of their ways and abusing refs and having a stack of yellow cards through the season, many of them through back chatting officials is simple not good enough.
He may be a good player but he needs to grow up, and if Storey had to wait his turn to get a place at his own club through what ever means then the flippin loan players can do the same.
Storey needs the experience of playing with these guys to find his weak points so he can improve on them, being a sub and coming on for a limited time is not going to provide that. Storey is odds on to be here next season, Pritchard not being our player so we cannot guarantee that.
This is not Pritchard bashing, its making a case for OUR OWN PLAYERS so they can develop and they will not do that sat on the bench. Once you have your abacus beads around that, things will be fine.
When you grow up I might take your post seriously!
Likewise. Life isn't all about putting things into neat little bundles, it concerns people and circumstance, which are two infinite quantities of variable qualities, each responding differently in given circumstances.

I wasn't Pritchard bashing but he needs to grow up, and getting sent off in the manner which he did was rank amateurish. He was wrong and has admitted as much. Making him wait and fight for his place will bring home the point that there are others here that can score, and perhaps in the future it will serve him a reminder to accept what the ref says, rightly or wrongly, and move on. Anybody defending his previous actions is wrong. Team places should be won on merits of more than just ball play, discipline is also a big part of any physical game. Something which this years squad seems to have had serious disregard for seemingly.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't get all this Pritchard bashing! . He has been our best and most consistent performer this season . He has our most assists, most MOTM award, shortlisted for L1 player of the year and FL Young player of the year on the back of his performances and yet we have people giving him stick as he is "Spurs" . Should we be moaning that Stephens is now preventing Ward, Branco or Oakley playing? . Yes him gettin g suspended has seen a shift in system which seems to benfit the team - but that doesn't mean Pritchard can't play in it . I felt the midfield were too similar on Sat and didn't have enough drive forward . Kasim was IMO the worst on the day - but as he probably has more of a future than Cox - you could say Cox could drop out to allow Pritchard to come in and add some drive from midfield - especially if Luongo is still out . Personally I would go with the following for Carlisle: . Wes N.Thompson Stephens Troy McEveley Byrne L.Thompson Pritchard Kasim Storey M.Smith . Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Gladwin, Barker, Waldon plus one form Luongo/Cox/Bartham[/p][/quote]No great stakes there, the team almost picks itself, but when Pritchard is available again I would start him off the bench. He and others have got to learn the folly of their ways and abusing refs and having a stack of yellow cards through the season, many of them through back chatting officials is simple not good enough. He may be a good player but he needs to grow up, and if Storey had to wait his turn to get a place at his own club through what ever means then the flippin loan players can do the same. Storey needs the experience of playing with these guys to find his weak points so he can improve on them, being a sub and coming on for a limited time is not going to provide that. Storey is odds on to be here next season, Pritchard not being our player so we cannot guarantee that. This is not Pritchard bashing, its making a case for OUR OWN PLAYERS so they can develop and they will not do that sat on the bench. Once you have your abacus beads around that, things will be fine.[/p][/quote]When you grow up I might take your post seriously![/p][/quote]Likewise. Life isn't all about putting things into neat little bundles, it concerns people and circumstance, which are two infinite quantities of variable qualities, each responding differently in given circumstances. I wasn't Pritchard bashing but he needs to grow up, and getting sent off in the manner which he did was rank amateurish. He was wrong and has admitted as much. Making him wait and fight for his place will bring home the point that there are others here that can score, and perhaps in the future it will serve him a reminder to accept what the ref says, rightly or wrongly, and move on. Anybody defending his previous actions is wrong. Team places should be won on merits of more than just ball play, discipline is also a big part of any physical game. Something which this years squad seems to have had serious disregard for seemingly. the wizard
  • Score: 2

8:47pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

On the discipline front, it amazes me how managers consistently get away with mouthing off at the 4th official. Even if a ref has got a decision wrong, WTF has it got to do with the 4th official? Moyes has been at it tonight. Welbeck gets rightly penalised for a shove on the Bayern player and Moyes is yelling at the 4th official! How can managers expect players to keep their discipline when they do that?
On the discipline front, it amazes me how managers consistently get away with mouthing off at the 4th official. Even if a ref has got a decision wrong, WTF has it got to do with the 4th official? Moyes has been at it tonight. Welbeck gets rightly penalised for a shove on the Bayern player and Moyes is yelling at the 4th official! How can managers expect players to keep their discipline when they do that? Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

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