NORTH WILTS YOUTH U15 CUP FINAL: Supermarine’s joy at final success

North Wilts Under 15 Cup winners Swindon Supermarine

Under 15 North Wilts Cup runners-up Purton

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Swindon Supermarine under 15s manager Chris Warren played down the impact of a North Wiltshire League Committee ruling that meant his starting eleven was missing four players and the match was abandoned after 57 minutes as they won they beat Purton 6-1 to lift the Under 15s cup.

Officials at the County Ground ruled that five of opponents Purton’s squad of 12, were ineligible to play in the afternoon’s final as they had represented another club, in another league that morning.

The FA rule states that youth players cannot play more than one game in a given day, unless both games are in the same tournament and each player is then limited to a total 100 minutes pitch time.

“We found out a couple of minutes before kick off,” said Warren.

“So I said to the boys, look it’s another challenge and let’s use this as a learning experience.”

The Supermarine boss was under no obligation to reduce the number of his starting line up, but he told the Adver that the thought never entered his head.

“Our big programme here is about developing the boys, giving them game time in a range of different situations. You can’t learn anything if it’s 11 versus 7, it doesn’t help anybody, but I was pleased with the performance.”

The game was abandoned after seventeen second half minutes immediately after Supermarine’s sixth goal, scored by Ashton Gleed.

Supermarine had raced into a two-goal lead as first Mathew Panella’Lach then Cameron Shrub created some space in the box and fired almost identical low right-footed drives across Tom Burgess and into the net.

Ten minutes later another quick-fire double made it 4-0 before the 20 minute mark with Louis O’Shea scoring both, first creating space for himself before finding the net, then was set up by Ben Powell, who danced his way into the box and unselfishly laid it off to O’Shea who put his finish in the top corner.

Purton’s only chance of the half came when Andrew Hunt broke through, but put his low drive at Supermarine keeper Sam Palmer.

Purton put Declan Harris, who had started the game up front, in goal for the last 10 minutes of the half and he produced two excellent saves in quick succession, enough to secure him the man-of-the-match award.

Purton grabbed a consolation within a minute of the restart as Toby Ferrison’s free kick was palmed down into the path of Fraser Little who knocked home.

However, Shrub scored his second five minutes later and when Gleed struck 10 minutes later, the Purton coaches brought their players off.

Purton coach Lee Smith said: “I didn’t want to send them out there, because I didn’t think it was safe to have seven-a-side on a full size pitch. The boys were cramping up and I had to bring them off for their own safety, the way the league handled it was a huge disappointment to me, the players and the families, we’ve all been let down.”

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6:58am Tue 13 May 14

Townendstfc says...

Well done Supermarine hold your heads up high
Well done Supermarine hold your heads up high Townendstfc
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11:46am Tue 13 May 14

Justice4Purton says...

Unfortunately this team learnt how to take advantage of a weaken side with a clear disavantage, how can they hold their heads up, they should be a shamed of what happened and also a shamed of their parents for allowing this and manipulating the situation. Where has sportsmanship gone? There should be a rematch which I am petitioning for. Lets teach these kids some respect and sportsmanship and get this match replayed under the correct circumstances, lets have Purton's best team and Supermarines best team out there, then we shall see who is the better team when all things are even, unless Supermarines are scared to actually play fairly and on an even playing field. We all know who the real winners are and that is Purton, at least we can sleep easy at night knowing that we weren't the team who spolied it and give the kids false hopes of achievement. Petition will be up and running by the weekend and then given to the league, if the result still stands then, a charity match will be arranged in the summer between the two sides to teach the teams the correct way of life and respect. Kind regards Mr C Hurden
Unfortunately this team learnt how to take advantage of a weaken side with a clear disavantage, how can they hold their heads up, they should be a shamed of what happened and also a shamed of their parents for allowing this and manipulating the situation. Where has sportsmanship gone? There should be a rematch which I am petitioning for. Lets teach these kids some respect and sportsmanship and get this match replayed under the correct circumstances, lets have Purton's best team and Supermarines best team out there, then we shall see who is the better team when all things are even, unless Supermarines are scared to actually play fairly and on an even playing field. We all know who the real winners are and that is Purton, at least we can sleep easy at night knowing that we weren't the team who spolied it and give the kids false hopes of achievement. Petition will be up and running by the weekend and then given to the league, if the result still stands then, a charity match will be arranged in the summer between the two sides to teach the teams the correct way of life and respect. Kind regards Mr C Hurden Justice4Purton
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12:38pm Tue 13 May 14

adver jurnolist says...

Having watched this play out over the past few days cant get my head around the fact that PARENTS allowed their children to play 2 matches in the same day. These kids have been around youth football for a long time now and to keep hearing parents say 'we didn't know' is rubbish. As parents the responsibility lies with you to ensure the safety of your own child. On this occasion you all wanted the best of both worlds and it back fired denying your children the chance to play at the county ground and know you are looking for a scapegoat. Neither manager or players from each team are to blame, though could have been handled better.....Parents hang your heads!!!
Having watched this play out over the past few days cant get my head around the fact that PARENTS allowed their children to play 2 matches in the same day. These kids have been around youth football for a long time now and to keep hearing parents say 'we didn't know' is rubbish. As parents the responsibility lies with you to ensure the safety of your own child. On this occasion you all wanted the best of both worlds and it back fired denying your children the chance to play at the county ground and know you are looking for a scapegoat. Neither manager or players from each team are to blame, though could have been handled better.....Parents hang your heads!!! adver jurnolist
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2:03pm Tue 13 May 14

footiemum2 says...

you shouldnt pass judgement on people you dont know, Im assuming you are a trainee Journalist !!? so not a bad little write up but would suggest you work on your research skills and then who knows you might get a job at the daily planet, !!
you shouldnt pass judgement on people you dont know, Im assuming you are a trainee Journalist !!? so not a bad little write up but would suggest you work on your research skills and then who knows you might get a job at the daily planet, !! footiemum2
  • Score: 4

2:58pm Tue 13 May 14

adver jurnolist says...

footiemum2 wrote:
you shouldnt pass judgement on people you dont know, Im assuming you are a trainee Journalist !!? so not a bad little write up but would suggest you work on your research skills and then who knows you might get a job at the daily planet, !!
No certainly not a trainee journalist !! Those parents which allowed their boys to play in the morning new full well what the regulations were.....both managers had no control over what activities the boys did in the morning of the match.....the North Wilts had no other option but to follow league rules. Who do you think is to blame??/
[quote][p][bold]footiemum2[/bold] wrote: you shouldnt pass judgement on people you dont know, Im assuming you are a trainee Journalist !!? so not a bad little write up but would suggest you work on your research skills and then who knows you might get a job at the daily planet, !![/p][/quote]No certainly not a trainee journalist !! Those parents which allowed their boys to play in the morning new full well what the regulations were.....both managers had no control over what activities the boys did in the morning of the match.....the North Wilts had no other option but to follow league rules. Who do you think is to blame??/ adver jurnolist
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4:41pm Tue 13 May 14

shaz47 says...

To be fair the purton side new they had this match so should of prepared better also the fact that super marine won the purton boys last year as well proves they are the better team in fairness to both teams they are only boys after all
To be fair the purton side new they had this match so should of prepared better also the fact that super marine won the purton boys last year as well proves they are the better team in fairness to both teams they are only boys after all shaz47
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4:46pm Tue 13 May 14

shaz47 says...

adver jurnolist wrote:
footiemum2 wrote:
you shouldnt pass judgement on people you dont know, Im assuming you are a trainee Journalist !!? so not a bad little write up but would suggest you work on your research skills and then who knows you might get a job at the daily planet, !!
No certainly not a trainee journalist !! Those parents which allowed their boys to play in the morning new full well what the regulations were.....both managers had no control over what activities the boys did in the morning of the match.....the North Wilts had no other option but to follow league rules. Who do you think is to blame??/
I agree Adver journalist
[quote][p][bold]adver jurnolist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]footiemum2[/bold] wrote: you shouldnt pass judgement on people you dont know, Im assuming you are a trainee Journalist !!? so not a bad little write up but would suggest you work on your research skills and then who knows you might get a job at the daily planet, !![/p][/quote]No certainly not a trainee journalist !! Those parents which allowed their boys to play in the morning new full well what the regulations were.....both managers had no control over what activities the boys did in the morning of the match.....the North Wilts had no other option but to follow league rules. Who do you think is to blame??/[/p][/quote]I agree Adver journalist shaz47
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5:55pm Tue 13 May 14

Townendstfc says...

Justice4purton I'm guessing your boy plays for Purton and if he does and he played in the game before then that's your fault......none of this is super marines fault so no they shouldn't be ashamed and as for being scared of playing have you listened to yourself the fa let the match go ahead with 7v7 Supermarine could of had all 11 players out so I think that's good sportmanship on there side......no one spoiled the match apart from the parents that let there kids play before purtons manager should of made it pretty clear that there were consequences you
Justice4purton I'm guessing your boy plays for Purton and if he does and he played in the game before then that's your fault......none of this is super marines fault so no they shouldn't be ashamed and as for being scared of playing have you listened to yourself the fa let the match go ahead with 7v7 Supermarine could of had all 11 players out so I think that's good sportmanship on there side......no one spoiled the match apart from the parents that let there kids play before purtons manager should of made it pretty clear that there were consequences you Townendstfc
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6:06pm Tue 13 May 14

Captain whipped says...

I agree with Townendstfc. Justice4Purton get a grip, the person at fault is the purton manager for not making it clear to the purton players. The rule is there for the kids protection. And I'm not sure after the way purton have conducted themselves, that super marine would want a 'charity match'. Pathetic
I agree with Townendstfc. Justice4Purton get a grip, the person at fault is the purton manager for not making it clear to the purton players. The rule is there for the kids protection. And I'm not sure after the way purton have conducted themselves, that super marine would want a 'charity match'. Pathetic Captain whipped
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6:11pm Tue 13 May 14

soccer1 says...

As an ex professional footballer and being involved in the non league football scene as a semi professional i cannot believe that such a fuss is being made about 15 year old lads playing 2 games in one day, Ridiculous !! Surely your effecting the development of players more by preventing them from playing ?, I would also say when you consider how many hours local league teams train compared to professional outfits the hours are far less. so to play 2 games in one day in a one off situation, i really cant see the issue, regardless of rules and regulations for a one off cup final?
As an ex professional footballer and being involved in the non league football scene as a semi professional i cannot believe that such a fuss is being made about 15 year old lads playing 2 games in one day, Ridiculous !! Surely your effecting the development of players more by preventing them from playing ?, I would also say when you consider how many hours local league teams train compared to professional outfits the hours are far less. so to play 2 games in one day in a one off situation, i really cant see the issue, regardless of rules and regulations for a one off cup final? soccer1
  • Score: 9

7:12pm Tue 13 May 14

footiemum2 says...

I agree soccer 1.
I agree soccer 1. footiemum2
  • Score: 5

7:21pm Tue 13 May 14

letthemplay says...

I tend to agree with you soccer1, you make some very valid points.
I tend to agree with you soccer1, you make some very valid points. letthemplay
  • Score: 6

8:37pm Tue 13 May 14

redarmy2005 says...

I read that the supermarine manager heard the 6 purton players represented swindon youth in a morning only just before kick off ... I think not as both his wife and son were watching the swindon youth game ... she forget to tell him or somehow missed all 6 players I think not ...
I read that the supermarine manager heard the 6 purton players represented swindon youth in a morning only just before kick off ... I think not as both his wife and son were watching the swindon youth game ... she forget to tell him or somehow missed all 6 players I think not ... redarmy2005
  • Score: 6

8:49pm Tue 13 May 14

Townendstfc says...

Local league and professional are totally different of course they won't do as much......the whole point is they were not allowed to play both games they were told weeks before so they had the choice which one was more important, the manager is def to blame so everyone that blames Supermarine go speak the the real cause of the prob rules are rules end of
Local league and professional are totally different of course they won't do as much......the whole point is they were not allowed to play both games they were told weeks before so they had the choice which one was more important, the manager is def to blame so everyone that blames Supermarine go speak the the real cause of the prob rules are rules end of Townendstfc
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8:54pm Tue 13 May 14

enjoy sport says...

I agree with soccer1 as I said yesterday these lads play footie at futsal to and that's not ever questioned, which I appreciate again is down to the parents but these boys just want to play football and as a parent myself I would rather that, than them being stuck in their bedroom or house on an Xbox or PlayStation with no interaction or fitness. How often today are we told that the youth of today are getting obese and not participating in any sport and putting their health at risk for conditions such as diabetes. Lets let them play.
I agree with soccer1 as I said yesterday these lads play footie at futsal to and that's not ever questioned, which I appreciate again is down to the parents but these boys just want to play football and as a parent myself I would rather that, than them being stuck in their bedroom or house on an Xbox or PlayStation with no interaction or fitness. How often today are we told that the youth of today are getting obese and not participating in any sport and putting their health at risk for conditions such as diabetes. Lets let them play. enjoy sport
  • Score: 5

9:21pm Tue 13 May 14

enjoy sport says...

Townendstfc wrote:
Local league and professional are totally different of course they won't do as much......the whole point is they were not allowed to play both games they were told weeks before so they had the choice which one was more important, the manager is def to blame so everyone that blames Supermarine go speak the the real cause of the prob rules are rules end of
my understanding is that this year the clubs were not told weeks before as the event usually falls on the end of may bank holiday weekend due to the number of games but this year was unsure as to whether Swindon made it into the play offs or not. If not could be moved forward from that weekend depending on when the pitch was being resurfaced. I think this may have been some of the cause but either way its those young boys that missed out not anyone else whoever you try to blame!!
[quote][p][bold]Townendstfc[/bold] wrote: Local league and professional are totally different of course they won't do as much......the whole point is they were not allowed to play both games they were told weeks before so they had the choice which one was more important, the manager is def to blame so everyone that blames Supermarine go speak the the real cause of the prob rules are rules end of[/p][/quote]my understanding is that this year the clubs were not told weeks before as the event usually falls on the end of may bank holiday weekend due to the number of games but this year was unsure as to whether Swindon made it into the play offs or not. If not could be moved forward from that weekend depending on when the pitch was being resurfaced. I think this may have been some of the cause but either way its those young boys that missed out not anyone else whoever you try to blame!! enjoy sport
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9:34pm Tue 13 May 14

soccer1 says...

I just wanted to make the point that we all want the best for young players in their development but surely young grassroots players are at a massive disadvantage when their training and game times are compared to the Academy programmes where players are expected to train 12 -14 hours a week from the ages of 12-16. so when you consider a local player only trains for a maximum of 3 hours a week,, taking into consideration this was a one off circumstance you would have thought the league would have seen sense and made an exception for one day for all young players to enjoy?
A Shame :(
I just wanted to make the point that we all want the best for young players in their development but surely young grassroots players are at a massive disadvantage when their training and game times are compared to the Academy programmes where players are expected to train 12 -14 hours a week from the ages of 12-16. so when you consider a local player only trains for a maximum of 3 hours a week,, taking into consideration this was a one off circumstance you would have thought the league would have seen sense and made an exception for one day for all young players to enjoy? A Shame :( soccer1
  • Score: 5

9:54pm Tue 13 May 14

enjoy sport says...

Here here soccer1, it appears when anyone speaks sense and honestly the rest of the opinions go quiet. This is not a blaming exercise or slanging match but about these young lads that deserved better.
Here here soccer1, it appears when anyone speaks sense and honestly the rest of the opinions go quiet. This is not a blaming exercise or slanging match but about these young lads that deserved better. enjoy sport
  • Score: 3

11:07pm Tue 13 May 14

letthemplay says...

Hey guys lets lighten things up a little shall we? Had a cracking idea I am thinking of ringing Roy Hodgson as have some wicked tactical ideas for him for his friendly against Peru.........Here goes my suggestion, watched a game Saturday at the County Ground Roy and see a system of 3-2-1 being played, never seen this system used before but the outcome was this... there seemed to be a lot of wide open spaces for the players to move around in, in fact there was probably enough for Jose Mourinho to park six buses between the defence and midfield and still get through without a ticket! There was less touches, less action, no fouls as no one could hardly run, not many corners, all in all the 3-2-1 system could be beneficial especially if played in a wind tunnel, perhaps this the way forward for the game? Can you let me know? Systems of 2-3-1 or 3-2-1 only reminds me of Dusty Bin, everyone a loser and a bad day for football............
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Hey guys lets lighten things up a little shall we? Had a cracking idea I am thinking of ringing Roy Hodgson as have some wicked tactical ideas for him for his friendly against Peru.........Here goes my suggestion, watched a game Saturday at the County Ground Roy and see a system of 3-2-1 being played, never seen this system used before but the outcome was this... there seemed to be a lot of wide open spaces for the players to move around in, in fact there was probably enough for Jose Mourinho to park six buses between the defence and midfield and still get through without a ticket! There was less touches, less action, no fouls as no one could hardly run, not many corners, all in all the 3-2-1 system could be beneficial especially if played in a wind tunnel, perhaps this the way forward for the game? Can you let me know? Systems of 2-3-1 or 3-2-1 only reminds me of Dusty Bin, everyone a loser and a bad day for football............ .............. letthemplay
  • Score: 0

9:29am Wed 14 May 14

adver jurnolist says...

letthemplay wrote:
Hey guys lets lighten things up a little shall we? Had a cracking idea I am thinking of ringing Roy Hodgson as have some wicked tactical ideas for him for his friendly against Peru.........Here goes my suggestion, watched a game Saturday at the County Ground Roy and see a system of 3-2-1 being played, never seen this system used before but the outcome was this... there seemed to be a lot of wide open spaces for the players to move around in, in fact there was probably enough for Jose Mourinho to park six buses between the defence and midfield and still get through without a ticket! There was less touches, less action, no fouls as no one could hardly run, not many corners, all in all the 3-2-1 system could be beneficial especially if played in a wind tunnel, perhaps this the way forward for the game? Can you let me know? Systems of 2-3-1 or 3-2-1 only reminds me of Dusty Bin, everyone a loser and a bad day for football............

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Supermarine seemed to cope with it quite well!!
[quote][p][bold]letthemplay[/bold] wrote: Hey guys lets lighten things up a little shall we? Had a cracking idea I am thinking of ringing Roy Hodgson as have some wicked tactical ideas for him for his friendly against Peru.........Here goes my suggestion, watched a game Saturday at the County Ground Roy and see a system of 3-2-1 being played, never seen this system used before but the outcome was this... there seemed to be a lot of wide open spaces for the players to move around in, in fact there was probably enough for Jose Mourinho to park six buses between the defence and midfield and still get through without a ticket! There was less touches, less action, no fouls as no one could hardly run, not many corners, all in all the 3-2-1 system could be beneficial especially if played in a wind tunnel, perhaps this the way forward for the game? Can you let me know? Systems of 2-3-1 or 3-2-1 only reminds me of Dusty Bin, everyone a loser and a bad day for football............ ..............[/p][/quote]Supermarine seemed to cope with it quite well!! adver jurnolist
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10:27am Wed 14 May 14

letthemplay says...

Did you forget to wake up with your sense of humour this morning??? This was a merely meant to be an amusing comment over the ridiculousness of making BOTH TEAMS play 7v7 on a full size pitch, surely much worse for the welfare of children in the long run. People are all being too quick to pass judgement on here, the people involved all will know what true parts they have played in this situation, looks to me through following the story there may of been bad errors of judgement on a lot of peoples behalves. The end result BOTH TEAMS suffered ALL players were probably devastated and let's try to remember they are children not criminals all they ever want is to play the game of footy. Am sure if you asked any one of the boys on either team none of them would have wanted this at all.
Did you forget to wake up with your sense of humour this morning??? This was a merely meant to be an amusing comment over the ridiculousness of making BOTH TEAMS play 7v7 on a full size pitch, surely much worse for the welfare of children in the long run. People are all being too quick to pass judgement on here, the people involved all will know what true parts they have played in this situation, looks to me through following the story there may of been bad errors of judgement on a lot of peoples behalves. The end result BOTH TEAMS suffered ALL players were probably devastated and let's try to remember they are children not criminals all they ever want is to play the game of footy. Am sure if you asked any one of the boys on either team none of them would have wanted this at all. letthemplay
  • Score: 4

8:00pm Thu 15 May 14

wiltsguy says...

Hello all

This was a very sad event but regardless of the rights and wrongs of the FA rule, it IS the FA rule, and Purton would have known it so how dumb of them to have this happen. Regarding justice4purton's rather irrational rant, SS were very sporting to play 7. I'm sure they'd rather have had a "proper" game. I am the parent of a team who SS beat earlier in the competition and for various reasons I thought their sportsmanship that day was exemplary - even though they probably expected to thrash us and we actually led for a large part of the game. Their coach, parents and players were extremely complimentary to our lads at the end of the game when they finally overcame us and the whole match was played in a great spirit. Our lads were really upset to have missed a great chance of an upset- but they were all talking about what a great game it was and how they now wanted SS to win. I don't think they and their parents deserve to have snide comments aimed at them. Sour grapes about having been found out breaking the rules, methinks!

Have a great season next season everybody - and play in the right spirit - which includes not ranting stupidly about injustice. Does justice4purton get equally hot under the collar when some poor Dad like me is running the line and gets an offside decision (innocently) wrong? If so, he should be ashamed of himself.
Hello all This was a very sad event but regardless of the rights and wrongs of the FA rule, it IS the FA rule, and Purton would have known it so how dumb of them to have this happen. Regarding justice4purton's rather irrational rant, SS were very sporting to play 7. I'm sure they'd rather have had a "proper" game. I am the parent of a team who SS beat earlier in the competition and for various reasons I thought their sportsmanship that day was exemplary - even though they probably expected to thrash us and we actually led for a large part of the game. Their coach, parents and players were extremely complimentary to our lads at the end of the game when they finally overcame us and the whole match was played in a great spirit. Our lads were really upset to have missed a great chance of an upset- but they were all talking about what a great game it was and how they now wanted SS to win. I don't think they and their parents deserve to have snide comments aimed at them. Sour grapes about having been found out breaking the rules, methinks! Have a great season next season everybody - and play in the right spirit - which includes not ranting stupidly about injustice. Does justice4purton get equally hot under the collar when some poor Dad like me is running the line and gets an offside decision (innocently) wrong? If so, he should be ashamed of himself. wiltsguy
  • Score: -1

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