Archibald-Henville is offered to other clubs as Town talks continue

Town defender Troy Archibald-Henville

Town defender Troy Archibald-Henville

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TROY Archibald-Henville remains in discussions with Swindon Town regarding the possibility of a new contract at the County Ground but his representatives are offering the defender to clubs around the Football League.

Town have tabled a reported pay as you play offer to the centre-back but no agreement has yet been reached, according to sources close to the player yesterday.

However, Archibald-Henville’s name is being circulated to any interested clubs, with the 25-year-old able to move on a free transfer as his two-year deal with Swindon is due to expire at the end of the month.

The Advertiser has seen an email which has been sent to sides in League One and League Two advertising the ex-Tottenham trainee’s availability. A Town spokesman said the Robins did not wish to comment at this stage when questioned about the state of discussions with the former Exeter City defender.

Archibald-Henville was signed for Swindon by Paolo Di Canio in the summer of 2012 but rarely featured for the Italian due to a recurrent knee injury. After a spell at Carlisle United at the start of last season, the problem flared up once again and required corrective surgery, ruling him out of action until February.

On his return to the Town team, Archibald-Henville became the rock at the heart of the Robins’ defence, helping his side keep five clean sheets during an impressive end to the campaign. In total, he has made 23 appearances for Swindon, scoring once in a League Cup clash with Burnley.

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6:22am Sat 14 Jun 14

port de soller says...

For a fit troy he would be worth keeping,yet still feel Exeter sold us a Bill Of Goods.
Also the player like all of us must be thinking will STFC exist next seaso because if Jed and co are allowed to thieve what we have I do fear LP will uproot and walk away.
See jed mate messed up Hereford as he was trying a construction scam on there ground.
The end of June cannot come quick enough or will Jed again be able to halt the proceedings??????
God help STFC the day Seebeck arrived
For a fit troy he would be worth keeping,yet still feel Exeter sold us a Bill Of Goods. Also the player like all of us must be thinking will STFC exist next seaso because if Jed and co are allowed to thieve what we have I do fear LP will uproot and walk away. See jed mate messed up Hereford as he was trying a construction scam on there ground. The end of June cannot come quick enough or will Jed again be able to halt the proceedings?????? God help STFC the day Seebeck arrived port de soller
  • Score: 8

7:10am Sat 14 Jun 14

LydiardRED67 says...

Would dearly love Troy to stay but from his point of view I don't think he will. There will be other clubs in our division who will be able to offer him a formal 2 or 3 year contract and he would be mad not to accept.

That is not a slight at STFC though as we know in detail his levels of fitness regarding his knee. He can't train fully with the rest of the squad and requires rest and special training between games, struggles to play two games in a week, and is oone tackle or poor landing away from being out for a season.

Hurts though it does, I think we are better off looking elsewhere.

One of my favourite players none the less.
Would dearly love Troy to stay but from his point of view I don't think he will. There will be other clubs in our division who will be able to offer him a formal 2 or 3 year contract and he would be mad not to accept. That is not a slight at STFC though as we know in detail his levels of fitness regarding his knee. He can't train fully with the rest of the squad and requires rest and special training between games, struggles to play two games in a week, and is oone tackle or poor landing away from being out for a season. Hurts though it does, I think we are better off looking elsewhere. One of my favourite players none the less. LydiardRED67
  • Score: 24

9:48am Sat 14 Jun 14

Davidsyrett says...

port de soller wrote:
For a fit troy he would be worth keeping,yet still feel Exeter sold us a Bill Of Goods.
Also the player like all of us must be thinking will STFC exist next seaso because if Jed and co are allowed to thieve what we have I do fear LP will uproot and walk away.
See jed mate messed up Hereford as he was trying a construction scam on there ground.
The end of June cannot come quick enough or will Jed again be able to halt the proceedings??????
God help STFC the day Seebeck arrived
Brighten up Port... Swindon Town will next here next season, talk about doom merchants!

LP is not going to walk away, just remember that LP owns more of the club than Jed, he's hardly going to give all that up, even if he loses the court battle, this is all about Jeds final payment, he has no desire to take the club over again, just being a pain so he can get more money out of LP. It won't have any effect on whether TAH stays or goes.

This time last season, the same people were saying the same doom laden comments about the club, and look what happened, a pretty good season. Chill out, enjoy the world cup and look forward to next season.. STFC will be here!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: For a fit troy he would be worth keeping,yet still feel Exeter sold us a Bill Of Goods. Also the player like all of us must be thinking will STFC exist next seaso because if Jed and co are allowed to thieve what we have I do fear LP will uproot and walk away. See jed mate messed up Hereford as he was trying a construction scam on there ground. The end of June cannot come quick enough or will Jed again be able to halt the proceedings?????? God help STFC the day Seebeck arrived[/p][/quote]Brighten up Port... Swindon Town will next here next season, talk about doom merchants! LP is not going to walk away, just remember that LP owns more of the club than Jed, he's hardly going to give all that up, even if he loses the court battle, this is all about Jeds final payment, he has no desire to take the club over again, just being a pain so he can get more money out of LP. It won't have any effect on whether TAH stays or goes. This time last season, the same people were saying the same doom laden comments about the club, and look what happened, a pretty good season. Chill out, enjoy the world cup and look forward to next season.. STFC will be here!!!!!!!! Davidsyrett
  • Score: 15

9:57am Sat 14 Jun 14

Stilloyal says...

Come on Town get Archie signed up otherwise we will be left with pedestrian Wardie and a rookie which doesn't inspire anyone.
Come on Town get Archie signed up otherwise we will be left with pedestrian Wardie and a rookie which doesn't inspire anyone. Stilloyal
  • Score: 1

11:22am Sat 14 Jun 14

port de soller says...

it´s not a question of brighten up,no it is concern.Fans and let us be honest have gone from having a mega rich Board who had there investment wasted,to a guy who paid 1 gbp and then eeded an investor to get the embarga lifted and run the club.
As for jed nobody know´s for sure what he has taken from STFC and what his aim is.
Lee Power has invested money in STFC and I think he is the major share holder,yet how can Jed and his band try to hold the club to ransom???
As said is not doom and Gloom yet if this case goes pear shape and Jed manages to get more cash from STFC I would not be surprised if LP does walk.
AB said enough was enough and he gave STFC away as nobody appeared to want us so yes I will chill out when all is revealed at the end of June.
That´s if Jed does not get an extension to the case
it´s not a question of brighten up,no it is concern.Fans and let us be honest have gone from having a mega rich Board who had there investment wasted,to a guy who paid 1 gbp and then eeded an investor to get the embarga lifted and run the club. As for jed nobody know´s for sure what he has taken from STFC and what his aim is. Lee Power has invested money in STFC and I think he is the major share holder,yet how can Jed and his band try to hold the club to ransom??? As said is not doom and Gloom yet if this case goes pear shape and Jed manages to get more cash from STFC I would not be surprised if LP does walk. AB said enough was enough and he gave STFC away as nobody appeared to want us so yes I will chill out when all is revealed at the end of June. That´s if Jed does not get an extension to the case port de soller
  • Score: 3

12:04pm Sat 14 Jun 14

smirg kcab says...

Del Boys 0 troy 1
Hope he finds himself a bigger club like accrington
Del Boys 0 troy 1 Hope he finds himself a bigger club like accrington smirg kcab
  • Score: -15

2:58pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Davidsyrett says...

port de soller wrote:
it´s not a question of brighten up,no it is concern.Fans and let us be honest have gone from having a mega rich Board who had there investment wasted,to a guy who paid 1 gbp and then eeded an investor to get the embarga lifted and run the club.
As for jed nobody know´s for sure what he has taken from STFC and what his aim is.
Lee Power has invested money in STFC and I think he is the major share holder,yet how can Jed and his band try to hold the club to ransom???
As said is not doom and Gloom yet if this case goes pear shape and Jed manages to get more cash from STFC I would not be surprised if LP does walk.
AB said enough was enough and he gave STFC away as nobody appeared to want us so yes I will chill out when all is revealed at the end of June.
That´s if Jed does not get an extension to the case
LP does hold a controlling interest in the club. Jed still owns the rest of the club and the argument comes down to what that is worth to buy him out.

Nobody wanted the club when AB decided to quit because of the losses we were making (rumoured to be £200K a month) due to all the high salaries. Now the club is getting close to a break even figure and alot more desirable to any future investors if it was to be sold. Jed knows this hence is trying to get as much for his shares as possible.

There is no chance of the club going bust by the start of the season, or anytime in the future as long as it is ran sensibly and sustainably as it is now.

Whilst LP will not wish to give Jed a penny more than he has too, he will also not just walk away even if he has to pay off Jed more than he wanted, the club has a value now, partly because of the money LP invested in it.

It's a bit messy I grant you, but this club in in a fair better financial position than it has been for many a season,
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: it´s not a question of brighten up,no it is concern.Fans and let us be honest have gone from having a mega rich Board who had there investment wasted,to a guy who paid 1 gbp and then eeded an investor to get the embarga lifted and run the club. As for jed nobody know´s for sure what he has taken from STFC and what his aim is. Lee Power has invested money in STFC and I think he is the major share holder,yet how can Jed and his band try to hold the club to ransom??? As said is not doom and Gloom yet if this case goes pear shape and Jed manages to get more cash from STFC I would not be surprised if LP does walk. AB said enough was enough and he gave STFC away as nobody appeared to want us so yes I will chill out when all is revealed at the end of June. That´s if Jed does not get an extension to the case[/p][/quote]LP does hold a controlling interest in the club. Jed still owns the rest of the club and the argument comes down to what that is worth to buy him out. Nobody wanted the club when AB decided to quit because of the losses we were making (rumoured to be £200K a month) due to all the high salaries. Now the club is getting close to a break even figure and alot more desirable to any future investors if it was to be sold. Jed knows this hence is trying to get as much for his shares as possible. There is no chance of the club going bust by the start of the season, or anytime in the future as long as it is ran sensibly and sustainably as it is now. Whilst LP will not wish to give Jed a penny more than he has too, he will also not just walk away even if he has to pay off Jed more than he wanted, the club has a value now, partly because of the money LP invested in it. It's a bit messy I grant you, but this club in in a fair better financial position than it has been for many a season, Davidsyrett
  • Score: 6

2:59pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Davidsyrett says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Del Boys 0 troy 1
Hope he finds himself a bigger club like accrington
Wish you would find a club to support like Accrington!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Del Boys 0 troy 1 Hope he finds himself a bigger club like accrington[/p][/quote]Wish you would find a club to support like Accrington! Davidsyrett
  • Score: 13

3:27pm Sat 14 Jun 14

matt71 says...

Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.
Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here. matt71
  • Score: -2

3:55pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
port de soller wrote:
it´s not a question of brighten up,no it is concern.Fans and let us be honest have gone from having a mega rich Board who had there investment wasted,to a guy who paid 1 gbp and then eeded an investor to get the embarga lifted and run the club.
As for jed nobody know´s for sure what he has taken from STFC and what his aim is.
Lee Power has invested money in STFC and I think he is the major share holder,yet how can Jed and his band try to hold the club to ransom???
As said is not doom and Gloom yet if this case goes pear shape and Jed manages to get more cash from STFC I would not be surprised if LP does walk.
AB said enough was enough and he gave STFC away as nobody appeared to want us so yes I will chill out when all is revealed at the end of June.
That´s if Jed does not get an extension to the case
LP does hold a controlling interest in the club. Jed still owns the rest of the club and the argument comes down to what that is worth to buy him out.

Nobody wanted the club when AB decided to quit because of the losses we were making (rumoured to be £200K a month) due to all the high salaries. Now the club is getting close to a break even figure and alot more desirable to any future investors if it was to be sold. Jed knows this hence is trying to get as much for his shares as possible.

There is no chance of the club going bust by the start of the season, or anytime in the future as long as it is ran sensibly and sustainably as it is now.

Whilst LP will not wish to give Jed a penny more than he has too, he will also not just walk away even if he has to pay off Jed more than he wanted, the club has a value now, partly because of the money LP invested in it.

It's a bit messy I grant you, but this club in in a fair better financial position than it has been for many a season,
Good post until your last sentence DS. The club had no financial worries for 5 years until PDC/Wray (depending on your point of view) killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: it´s not a question of brighten up,no it is concern.Fans and let us be honest have gone from having a mega rich Board who had there investment wasted,to a guy who paid 1 gbp and then eeded an investor to get the embarga lifted and run the club. As for jed nobody know´s for sure what he has taken from STFC and what his aim is. Lee Power has invested money in STFC and I think he is the major share holder,yet how can Jed and his band try to hold the club to ransom??? As said is not doom and Gloom yet if this case goes pear shape and Jed manages to get more cash from STFC I would not be surprised if LP does walk. AB said enough was enough and he gave STFC away as nobody appeared to want us so yes I will chill out when all is revealed at the end of June. That´s if Jed does not get an extension to the case[/p][/quote]LP does hold a controlling interest in the club. Jed still owns the rest of the club and the argument comes down to what that is worth to buy him out. Nobody wanted the club when AB decided to quit because of the losses we were making (rumoured to be £200K a month) due to all the high salaries. Now the club is getting close to a break even figure and alot more desirable to any future investors if it was to be sold. Jed knows this hence is trying to get as much for his shares as possible. There is no chance of the club going bust by the start of the season, or anytime in the future as long as it is ran sensibly and sustainably as it is now. Whilst LP will not wish to give Jed a penny more than he has too, he will also not just walk away even if he has to pay off Jed more than he wanted, the club has a value now, partly because of the money LP invested in it. It's a bit messy I grant you, but this club in in a fair better financial position than it has been for many a season,[/p][/quote]Good post until your last sentence DS. The club had no financial worries for 5 years until PDC/Wray (depending on your point of view) killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

4:13pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Davidsyrett says...

My point Den, was that we are not so reliant on any one person to keep the club afloat, who may, whenever it takes their fancy, up and leave us in the lurch.
My point Den, was that we are not so reliant on any one person to keep the club afloat, who may, whenever it takes their fancy, up and leave us in the lurch. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 6

4:26pm Sat 14 Jun 14

port de soller says...

thanks for info davidsyrett,
messy yes for sure,just cannot figure out how this wezal has been able to do this.
Ifo was wellcome thanks indeed.
Changing subject(lot of sad faces in my local last night) hope they can bounce back
Also england has a biggie tonight best of luck to them
thanks for info davidsyrett, messy yes for sure,just cannot figure out how this wezal has been able to do this. Ifo was wellcome thanks indeed. Changing subject(lot of sad faces in my local last night) hope they can bounce back Also england has a biggie tonight best of luck to them port de soller
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
My point Den, was that we are not so reliant on any one person to keep the club afloat, who may, whenever it takes their fancy, up and leave us in the lurch.
That's fair enough DS. It's just that I suspect the club is in a worse state post-McCrory than when he took it over from Black - hence the legal action against McCrory by Power.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: My point Den, was that we are not so reliant on any one person to keep the club afloat, who may, whenever it takes their fancy, up and leave us in the lurch.[/p][/quote]That's fair enough DS. It's just that I suspect the club is in a worse state post-McCrory than when he took it over from Black - hence the legal action against McCrory by Power. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

8:32pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Rednwhitewalrus699 says...

matt71 wrote:
Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.
It's his agent's job you ****!
[quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.[/p][/quote]It's his agent's job you ****! Rednwhitewalrus699
  • Score: 1

8:53pm Sat 14 Jun 14

port de soller says...

yes agree he unfortunately is injury pron,if he does not want what STFC offered let him go,however he will not find it so easy with his medical record,or maybe a club will take the chance.Do wish him well.I still think Exeter knew of his injury situation however looks as if the Town messed up with medical when they signed him
yes agree he unfortunately is injury pron,if he does not want what STFC offered let him go,however he will not find it so easy with his medical record,or maybe a club will take the chance.Do wish him well.I still think Exeter knew of his injury situation however looks as if the Town messed up with medical when they signed him port de soller
  • Score: 1

1:13am Sun 15 Jun 14

akershaker says...

I think it's unlikely that Exeter knew the extent of his injury, they offered him a new contract when we signed him. We didn't buy Troy - he ran out of contract and chose to come to us over staying at Exeter.
I think it's unlikely that Exeter knew the extent of his injury, they offered him a new contract when we signed him. We didn't buy Troy - he ran out of contract and chose to come to us over staying at Exeter. akershaker
  • Score: 0

8:40am Sun 15 Jun 14

Helpme234 says...

Rednwhitewalrus699 wrote:
matt71 wrote:
Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.
It's his agent's job you ****!
Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.
[quote][p][bold]Rednwhitewalrus699[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.[/p][/quote]It's his agent's job you ****![/p][/quote]Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on. Helpme234
  • Score: 2

3:55pm Sun 15 Jun 14

matt71 says...

Helpme234 wrote:
Rednwhitewalrus699 wrote:
matt71 wrote:
Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.
It's his agent's job you ****!
Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.
Exactly my point rednwhitewalrus you **** bell end.
[quote][p][bold]Helpme234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rednwhitewalrus699[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.[/p][/quote]It's his agent's job you ****![/p][/quote]Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point rednwhitewalrus you **** bell end. matt71
  • Score: -4

7:42am Mon 16 Jun 14

old town robin says...

Been away for a week, but don't think I've missed any news by the look of it. What about the other 3 players out of contract, have they put pen to paper yet?

Change of topic, as there has been so little news coming from STFC, Today we get to hear whom we meet in the league cup and tomorrow the fixture list is published. Hope our first game will be at home. Now all we need is one or two signings to bolster what we already have.
Been away for a week, but don't think I've missed any news by the look of it. What about the other 3 players out of contract, have they put pen to paper yet? Change of topic, as there has been so little news coming from STFC, Today we get to hear whom we meet in the league cup and tomorrow the fixture list is published. Hope our first game will be at home. Now all we need is one or two signings to bolster what we already have. old town robin
  • Score: 0

8:38am Mon 16 Jun 14

Swindon1984 says...

matt71 wrote:
Helpme234 wrote:
Rednwhitewalrus699 wrote:
matt71 wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.
It's his agent's job you ****!
Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.
Exactly my point rednwhitewalrus you **** bell end.
Let's be honest, if we're offering a pay as you play deal, it would be crazy for his agent to not look elsewhere for a permanent deal. As the guy's only played 23 games in two years for us he'd be struggling on a pay as you play deal. Need to be realistic, can understand the club offering that type of deal knowing his injury problems but we can't blame the guy for wanting more security, and it looks like that would involve leaving the club. Not quite sure why there always has to be someone in the wrong, the way I see it both sides are justified in acting the way they have.
[quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helpme234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rednwhitewalrus699[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.[/p][/quote]It's his agent's job you ****![/p][/quote]Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point rednwhitewalrus you **** bell end.[/p][/quote]Let's be honest, if we're offering a pay as you play deal, it would be crazy for his agent to not look elsewhere for a permanent deal. As the guy's only played 23 games in two years for us he'd be struggling on a pay as you play deal. Need to be realistic, can understand the club offering that type of deal knowing his injury problems but we can't blame the guy for wanting more security, and it looks like that would involve leaving the club. Not quite sure why there always has to be someone in the wrong, the way I see it both sides are justified in acting the way they have. Swindon1984
  • Score: 4

10:08am Mon 16 Jun 14

Stilloyal says...

On another topic Williams is back to fitness ahead of schedule and can't wait for pre season. Looks like he's in Coopermans plans going by what was said on the radio..
I guess it'll be a real contest to see who misses most penalties :-) only joking folks.

England have a new captain, his name is George and he's the pilot of the plane flying them back on the 25th .
On another topic Williams is back to fitness ahead of schedule and can't wait for pre season. Looks like he's in Coopermans plans going by what was said on the radio.. I guess it'll be a real contest to see who misses most penalties :-) only joking folks. England have a new captain, his name is George and he's the pilot of the plane flying them back on the 25th . Stilloyal
  • Score: 0

11:54am Mon 16 Jun 14

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
My point Den, was that we are not so reliant on any one person to keep the club afloat, who may, whenever it takes their fancy, up and leave us in the lurch.
That's fair enough DS. It's just that I suspect the club is in a worse state post-McCrory than when he took it over from Black - hence the legal action against McCrory by Power.
Den, how can the current situation be worse than Administration? That's how Black would have left it.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: My point Den, was that we are not so reliant on any one person to keep the club afloat, who may, whenever it takes their fancy, up and leave us in the lurch.[/p][/quote]That's fair enough DS. It's just that I suspect the club is in a worse state post-McCrory than when he took it over from Black - hence the legal action against McCrory by Power.[/p][/quote]Den, how can the current situation be worse than Administration? That's how Black would have left it. mancrobin
  • Score: 0

1:45pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

manc, I didn't say the current situation is worse than administration. That's not the point at all. Black (and the others) took on a club that was millions in debt. They not only wiped out that debt, they sustained the club for 5 years, gave us a lot of excitement and gave us real hope that we could at last get ourselves established in the higher divisions.

DS said the club is in a far better financial position than it has been for many a season. That is quite plainly not true. The club had no financial worries while Black was funding its operation. When he had finally had enough of his generosity being abused, he handed over a debt-free club to McCrory, who had no interest whatsoever in investing in it. I would have a decent wager with you that the club is in a much worse financial position now than when McCrory got hold of it - administration or no administration. I shudder to think where we'd have been now if Power had not seen the light and sacked McCrory. Why do you think Power is now taking legal action against McCrory if it isn't to recover funds lost during McCrory's tenure?

I still fail to see why you and others seem to think the club is better off with unfunded expenditure than having those costs underwritten by a generous benefactor. Of course it is better for the club to stand on its own two feet but isn't it better still to have that sustainability backed by financial strength? For a start, it would mean that we wouldn't have to sell our best players simply in order to survive.

If someone walked into STFC tomorrow with a cast iron guarantee that he would wipe out all its debt and fund the club to the tune of millions over the next 5 years, you would be in a very small minority in your opposition to him. If you want to know the last time the club was in real financial trouble, I'll tell you. It was just before Black and co took over. It wasn't just administration on the horizon then. The very existence of the club was at stake. What would McCrory's pound have done for us then?

For "sustainable model", read "I am not putting anything into this football club". The same has now happened at Hereford, where McCrory's mate put his pound in, promising "new sources of investment next week". Next week has come and gone, and guess what?
manc, I didn't say the current situation is worse than administration. That's not the point at all. Black (and the others) took on a club that was millions in debt. They not only wiped out that debt, they sustained the club for 5 years, gave us a lot of excitement and gave us real hope that we could at last get ourselves established in the higher divisions. DS said the club is in a far better financial position than it has been for many a season. That is quite plainly not true. The club had no financial worries while Black was funding its operation. When he had finally had enough of his generosity being abused, he handed over a debt-free club to McCrory, who had no interest whatsoever in investing in it. I would have a decent wager with you that the club is in a much worse financial position now than when McCrory got hold of it - administration or no administration. I shudder to think where we'd have been now if Power had not seen the light and sacked McCrory. Why do you think Power is now taking legal action against McCrory if it isn't to recover funds lost during McCrory's tenure? I still fail to see why you and others seem to think the club is better off with unfunded expenditure than having those costs underwritten by a generous benefactor. Of course it is better for the club to stand on its own two feet but isn't it better still to have that sustainability backed by financial strength? For a start, it would mean that we wouldn't have to sell our best players simply in order to survive. If someone walked into STFC tomorrow with a cast iron guarantee that he would wipe out all its debt and fund the club to the tune of millions over the next 5 years, you would be in a very small minority in your opposition to him. If you want to know the last time the club was in real financial trouble, I'll tell you. It was just before Black and co took over. It wasn't just administration on the horizon then. The very existence of the club was at stake. What would McCrory's pound have done for us then? For "sustainable model", read "I am not putting anything into this football club". The same has now happened at Hereford, where McCrory's mate put his pound in, promising "new sources of investment next week". Next week has come and gone, and guess what? Oi Den!
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2:14pm Mon 16 Jun 14

jillyh says...

Getting fed up with breaking news re lougo and the world cup
Please for those of us reliant on this site can we have updated news on stfc
Getting fed up with breaking news re lougo and the world cup Please for those of us reliant on this site can we have updated news on stfc jillyh
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2:16pm Mon 16 Jun 14

the wizard says...

Den, as ever, full grasp of the situation, however I don't think Manc was alluding to all being well either, he usually has a fair grasp of things and a decent sense of realism like your good self.
Den, as ever, full grasp of the situation, however I don't think Manc was alluding to all being well either, he usually has a fair grasp of things and a decent sense of realism like your good self. the wizard
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3:41pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
matt71 wrote:
Helpme234 wrote:
Rednwhitewalrus699 wrote:
matt71 wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.
It's his agent's job you ****!
Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.
Exactly my point rednwhitewalrus you **** bell end.
Let's be honest, if we're offering a pay as you play deal, it would be crazy for his agent to not look elsewhere for a permanent deal. As the guy's only played 23 games in two years for us he'd be struggling on a pay as you play deal. Need to be realistic, can understand the club offering that type of deal knowing his injury problems but we can't blame the guy for wanting more security, and it looks like that would involve leaving the club. Not quite sure why there always has to be someone in the wrong, the way I see it both sides are justified in acting the way they have.
Very well said 84. Seems a bit unlikely that he'll get the security of a full time contract elsewhere though, if we are prepared to offer only "pay as you play". If we won't take the gamble, surely another club would be very unwise not to take their lead from us?
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helpme234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rednwhitewalrus699[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: Think we should withdraw the contract offer he is touting himself around other clubs and obviously does not want to be here.[/p][/quote]It's his agent's job you ****![/p][/quote]Well he employs the agent and could easily put a stop to being touted around if he wanted. I can understand the reasons why he might want to leave though but let's not make him out to be completely unaware of what's going on.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point rednwhitewalrus you **** bell end.[/p][/quote]Let's be honest, if we're offering a pay as you play deal, it would be crazy for his agent to not look elsewhere for a permanent deal. As the guy's only played 23 games in two years for us he'd be struggling on a pay as you play deal. Need to be realistic, can understand the club offering that type of deal knowing his injury problems but we can't blame the guy for wanting more security, and it looks like that would involve leaving the club. Not quite sure why there always has to be someone in the wrong, the way I see it both sides are justified in acting the way they have.[/p][/quote]Very well said 84. Seems a bit unlikely that he'll get the security of a full time contract elsewhere though, if we are prepared to offer only "pay as you play". If we won't take the gamble, surely another club would be very unwise not to take their lead from us? Oi Den!
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7:20pm Mon 16 Jun 14

subbuteoles says...

Carling Cup draw tomorrow at 10am chaps. I,m sure League fixtures are made on Thursday.
Carling Cup draw tomorrow at 10am chaps. I,m sure League fixtures are made on Thursday. subbuteoles
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9:54pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Wilesy says...

"If someone walked into STFC tomorrow with a cast iron guarantee that he would wipe out all its debt and fund the club to the tune of millions over the next 5 years, you would be in a very small minority in your opposition to him."

Absolutely true Den, but then if you knew he would withdraw his funding and give us 2 weeks to find a buyer or face administration, not many would fancy that....
"If someone walked into STFC tomorrow with a cast iron guarantee that he would wipe out all its debt and fund the club to the tune of millions over the next 5 years, you would be in a very small minority in your opposition to him." Absolutely true Den, but then if you knew he would withdraw his funding and give us 2 weeks to find a buyer or face administration, not many would fancy that.... Wilesy
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10:45pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Wilesy wrote:
"If someone walked into STFC tomorrow with a cast iron guarantee that he would wipe out all its debt and fund the club to the tune of millions over the next 5 years, you would be in a very small minority in your opposition to him."

Absolutely true Den, but then if you knew he would withdraw his funding and give us 2 weeks to find a buyer or face administration, not many would fancy that....
I would Wilesy - and I reckon most fans of other lower division clubs would bite your hand off for the chance. Anyway I think the notice was much greater than two weeks. Patey had been trying to flog the club for ages, albeit in the guise of "looking for further investment". I doubt very much that McCrory would have got his hands on it if he had been truthful about his plans. The problem was not Black. He had given us our best ever chance of genuine progress. Patey was probably taken in by the McCrory porkies, which makes it a wonder that he was a successful international diplomat. If, on the other hand, McCrory really was the only interested party, Black can't be blamed for that - short notice or otherwise. He was giving away a debt-free football club with great potential. And please, let's not have all the hand wringing about expensive contracts. Yes, there were a few of those but they should have been no problem for.someone who had just paid a pound for the club and was promising a £4m playing budget. Andrew Black should be remembered as the man who put more into STFC than anyone else in history. Pity about who followed him.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: "If someone walked into STFC tomorrow with a cast iron guarantee that he would wipe out all its debt and fund the club to the tune of millions over the next 5 years, you would be in a very small minority in your opposition to him." Absolutely true Den, but then if you knew he would withdraw his funding and give us 2 weeks to find a buyer or face administration, not many would fancy that....[/p][/quote]I would Wilesy - and I reckon most fans of other lower division clubs would bite your hand off for the chance. Anyway I think the notice was much greater than two weeks. Patey had been trying to flog the club for ages, albeit in the guise of "looking for further investment". I doubt very much that McCrory would have got his hands on it if he had been truthful about his plans. The problem was not Black. He had given us our best ever chance of genuine progress. Patey was probably taken in by the McCrory porkies, which makes it a wonder that he was a successful international diplomat. If, on the other hand, McCrory really was the only interested party, Black can't be blamed for that - short notice or otherwise. He was giving away a debt-free football club with great potential. And please, let's not have all the hand wringing about expensive contracts. Yes, there were a few of those but they should have been no problem for.someone who had just paid a pound for the club and was promising a £4m playing budget. Andrew Black should be remembered as the man who put more into STFC than anyone else in history. Pity about who followed him. Oi Den!
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