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Cooper not afraid to use his young squad as an explanation

Swindon Advertiser: Mark Cooper Mark Cooper

MARK Cooper has accepted he frequently uses the young average age of his Swindon Town squad to try to explain when things go wrong, but he’s not about to change his tune.

With Ryan Harley and Darren Ward set to be offloaded this summer, Swindon will start the 2014/15 campaign with just one player over the age of 25 amongst their ranks - Andy Williams.

Therefore, Cooper feels he has a legitimate argument in highlighting Town’s tender years in certain situations, even though he knows some fans are mocking him for it.

“I think we’ve got the basis or the nucleus of a team that did some good things. We need to add to that in certain positions that will give us the impetus to drive forward. We have got the nucleus to do well,” he said.

“Someone showed me something where I’d taken a bit of stick, that I’d kept going on about the youth of the team. I’m not telling any lies. The team is young and they’re going to make mistakes. With the way we play they will make mistakes but they will get better and I enjoy working with them every day. They’ve done really well so far and they’re only going to get better.

“The year they’ve just had gives them experience and some of them now become more experienced players and they have to help the younger ones. People will have seen how we play and will try to work us out. We have to be a step in front of them and change little things to how we do things so we’re not as easy to play against.

“I don’t want to set any expectations. Boring as it is, all I want to do is go from game to game and try to entertain people. Hopefully the young players can keep improving and who knows? Who knows where we can go if we get the right two or three players in.”

Meanwhile, trialists Ibrahim Kargbo, Elikem Amenku and Khalil Ladid have all left the club. Town face Petersfield in a pre-season friendly tonight, though it remains unclear whether Calvin Kalinga or Jonathan Vandemsompele will feature. Kalinga may play a part in the youth team’s clash with Fairford Town at Cinder Lane.

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6:48am Tue 15 Jul 14

port de soller says...

Yes agree young players should be given the opportunity to play.Yet when you look at the squad a few new faces are needed as when you now look nearly all the high earners have gone????
STFC need to try under hard times to bring in Fresh Blood(it´s all very weel a player coming knocking the dor saying I need a trial,plus the afrikan ones MC found) who know´s he may unearth a real Gem sure hope so.
All I can say is good luck to STFC for coming season
Yes agree young players should be given the opportunity to play.Yet when you look at the squad a few new faces are needed as when you now look nearly all the high earners have gone???? STFC need to try under hard times to bring in Fresh Blood(it´s all very weel a player coming knocking the dor saying I need a trial,plus the afrikan ones MC found) who know´s he may unearth a real Gem sure hope so. All I can say is good luck to STFC for coming season port de soller
  • Score: -3

6:56am Tue 15 Jul 14

dazzastfc says...

ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down... dazzastfc
  • Score: -47

6:57am Tue 15 Jul 14

Fernham Red says...

Not entirely surprised at the trailists leaving. Kalinga coud be a good addition to the youth set-up (I.e. As back up to the first team). I get the impression he is a rough diamond and MC may want to keep tabs on his progress for longer to make sure he has the discipline and commitment required to become part of STFC.

Adver please can you provide the team sheets (1st and 2nd half of the pre-season matches) so we can all see MCs thinking around team selection?

PDS what makes you think we will be replacing any of the 'high earners'?
Not entirely surprised at the trailists leaving. Kalinga coud be a good addition to the youth set-up (I.e. As back up to the first team). I get the impression he is a rough diamond and MC may want to keep tabs on his progress for longer to make sure he has the discipline and commitment required to become part of STFC. Adver please can you provide the team sheets (1st and 2nd half of the pre-season matches) so we can all see MCs thinking around team selection? PDS what makes you think we will be replacing any of the 'high earners'? Fernham Red
  • Score: 4

6:59am Tue 15 Jul 14

Red Tuareg says...

Just watching "Big Match Revisited" with Andy King scoring a hat trick for Everton against Bristol City in 1979. Looking oh so young in post match interview with mass of permed curls and huge tie. Those were the days !!
Looking forward to a peak at the town tonight, being in West Sussex it is almost a home game.
Just watching "Big Match Revisited" with Andy King scoring a hat trick for Everton against Bristol City in 1979. Looking oh so young in post match interview with mass of permed curls and huge tie. Those were the days !! Looking forward to a peak at the town tonight, being in West Sussex it is almost a home game. Red Tuareg
  • Score: 1

8:06am Tue 15 Jul 14

smirg kcab says...

Yes young players can make mistakes but mr cooper I'm afraid you can't.
I believe your whole season is dependant on wilma scoring plenty, failing to do so I think IMO many natives will not be happy. (Un less you can pull of a good forward in the transfer market).
Wish it all comes together for you and we get value for money
and honest interviews
As dazza says cut the bull get a couple of decent players, then we can all look forward to a successful season to be proud of.
Tic tock the days are counting down.
Yes young players can make mistakes but mr cooper I'm afraid you can't. I believe your whole season is dependant on wilma scoring plenty, failing to do so I think IMO many natives will not be happy. (Un less you can pull of a good forward in the transfer market). Wish it all comes together for you and we get value for money and honest interviews As dazza says cut the bull get a couple of decent players, then we can all look forward to a successful season to be proud of. Tic tock the days are counting down. smirg kcab
  • Score: -17

8:23am Tue 15 Jul 14

South Stand says...

dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Whatever you say Glenda.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Whatever you say Glenda. South Stand
  • Score: 5

8:32am Tue 15 Jul 14

London Red says...

dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Bit like you then who has started already!
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Bit like you then who has started already! London Red
  • Score: 11

8:41am Tue 15 Jul 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

OMG we haven't kicked a ball and he is off again, god I am looking forward to this season.....
OMG we haven't kicked a ball and he is off again, god I am looking forward to this season..... you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: 0

9:37am Tue 15 Jul 14

Frampton58 says...

Old players are no guarantee that mistakes will not be made. At least young ones have the energy and speed to back track to make amends.
Just remember what Hanson said ' you cannot win with youth '! So it is up to Mr Cooper and his 'babies' to prove that youth can triumph.
Old players are no guarantee that mistakes will not be made. At least young ones have the energy and speed to back track to make amends. Just remember what Hanson said ' you cannot win with youth '! So it is up to Mr Cooper and his 'babies' to prove that youth can triumph. Frampton58
  • Score: 3

9:56am Tue 15 Jul 14

Stilloyal says...

Well if you think older players are immune to mistakes just watch re-runs of Wardies games last season, that should clear your mind a bit.
Old proverb "He who never made a mistake never did anything " We are all vulnerable !
Well if you think older players are immune to mistakes just watch re-runs of Wardies games last season, that should clear your mind a bit. Old proverb "He who never made a mistake never did anything " We are all vulnerable ! Stilloyal
  • Score: 13

10:09am Tue 15 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Bit like you then who has started already!
But he has a point LR. There has to come a time where our team is able to stand on its own feet. Or are we always going to rely on the same explanation every time we fall short?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Bit like you then who has started already![/p][/quote]But he has a point LR. There has to come a time where our team is able to stand on its own feet. Or are we always going to rely on the same explanation every time we fall short? Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

10:35am Tue 15 Jul 14

LeGod says...

i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here.
Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish.
I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it).
Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here.
Still cant work out of your the postman or letterbox?
i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here. Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish. I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it). Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here. Still cant work out of your the postman or letterbox? LeGod
  • Score: 10

10:35am Tue 15 Jul 14

LeGod says...

i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here.
Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish.
I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it).
Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here.
Still cant work out if your the postman or letterbox?
i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here. Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish. I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it). Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here. Still cant work out if your the postman or letterbox? LeGod
  • Score: -4

10:40am Tue 15 Jul 14

Robinonfire says...

Blow our socks off......COOPERMAN
Blow our socks off......COOPERMAN Robinonfire
  • Score: -4

11:27am Tue 15 Jul 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Bit like you then who has started already!
But he has a point LR. There has to come a time where our team is able to stand on its own feet. Or are we always going to rely on the same explanation every time we fall short?
Spot on Den, he can only rely on that ol chestnut for a short while longer until our team beds into the new season, it's all about getting the best out of the players we have! a good example of that was the Costa Rica manager, getting his team to perform to their best, with average players, while a lot of the so called bigger nations totally failed (England included). excuses won't cut it for too long chaps, it's up to Power and Coops to get sorted and hopefully bring in a few decent players ASAP to start with cause we're looking rather short to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Bit like you then who has started already![/p][/quote]But he has a point LR. There has to come a time where our team is able to stand on its own feet. Or are we always going to rely on the same explanation every time we fall short?[/p][/quote]Spot on Den, he can only rely on that ol chestnut for a short while longer until our team beds into the new season, it's all about getting the best out of the players we have! a good example of that was the Costa Rica manager, getting his team to perform to their best, with average players, while a lot of the so called bigger nations totally failed (England included). excuses won't cut it for too long chaps, it's up to Power and Coops to get sorted and hopefully bring in a few decent players ASAP to start with cause we're looking rather short to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 4

11:28am Tue 15 Jul 14

Di kanny oh says...

With more sponsors coming on board may be Lee will loosen the purse strings a little and we could get a couple more players in. Where is Fredi when we need him I thought there was talk about investors waiting in the wings that would benefit the club and the town of Swindon, just hope the court case has not frightened them off. Fredi has been correct on many things re STFC and it would be nice to hear from him again to give us all an update. I feel we need more than just 2 or 3 new players if we are to push on to better last season.
With more sponsors coming on board may be Lee will loosen the purse strings a little and we could get a couple more players in. Where is Fredi when we need him I thought there was talk about investors waiting in the wings that would benefit the club and the town of Swindon, just hope the court case has not frightened them off. Fredi has been correct on many things re STFC and it would be nice to hear from him again to give us all an update. I feel we need more than just 2 or 3 new players if we are to push on to better last season. Di kanny oh
  • Score: -3

11:39am Tue 15 Jul 14

Swindon1984 says...

LeGod wrote:
i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here. Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish. I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it). Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here. Still cant work out if your the postman or letterbox?
Sorry LeGod but what you've put above is equal to or more ridiculous than anything Grim's ever said. He ocassionally gets on my nerves too but petty back and forths end up insulting both of you and doing you a disservice. There's witty banter and then there's the playground stuff we see on here - implying someone's gay as an insult and so forth. Grow up lads.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here. Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish. I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it). Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here. Still cant work out if your the postman or letterbox?[/p][/quote]Sorry LeGod but what you've put above is equal to or more ridiculous than anything Grim's ever said. He ocassionally gets on my nerves too but petty back and forths end up insulting both of you and doing you a disservice. There's witty banter and then there's the playground stuff we see on here - implying someone's gay as an insult and so forth. Grow up lads. Swindon1984
  • Score: 3

11:52am Tue 15 Jul 14

old town robin says...

Went down to collect my season tickets today, so others don't waste their time they are not yet available, told to come back Friday. Did purchase my Saints tickets, about 4k sold so far. (guess that would not include what they are likely to bring with them). Season tickets now standing at around 4500, so must have sold about another 1000 this week. Won't be that far off from last season, guessing we are probably about 10% down (500) with 3 weeks to go.
Went down to collect my season tickets today, so others don't waste their time they are not yet available, told to come back Friday. Did purchase my Saints tickets, about 4k sold so far. (guess that would not include what they are likely to bring with them). Season tickets now standing at around 4500, so must have sold about another 1000 this week. Won't be that far off from last season, guessing we are probably about 10% down (500) with 3 weeks to go. old town robin
  • Score: 0

12:09pm Tue 15 Jul 14

MidlandRobin says...

Alan Hansen would be spinning in at his retirement party 'you can't win anything with kids'

It's all very well having a youthful team, but there does need to be an experienced stable core to climb the lower leagues. Otherwise, we lose our best players to Championship clubs, we don't win anything and we're stuck in mid table, or worse a relegation battle.

IMO,
two CBs are needed to replacement Troy and Stephens.
one Striker who can hold the ball up, if Smiths not up to the task.
one/two wingers to replace Pritchard and an understudy for williams?
one substitute goalkeeper
one left back

6/7 new additions for me, if we're to make anything of this season
Alan Hansen would be spinning in at his retirement party 'you can't win anything with kids' It's all very well having a youthful team, but there does need to be an experienced stable core to climb the lower leagues. Otherwise, we lose our best players to Championship clubs, we don't win anything and we're stuck in mid table, or worse a relegation battle. IMO, two CBs are needed to replacement Troy and Stephens. one Striker who can hold the ball up, if Smiths not up to the task. one/two wingers to replace Pritchard and an understudy for williams? one substitute goalkeeper one left back 6/7 new additions for me, if we're to make anything of this season MidlandRobin
  • Score: -3

12:18pm Tue 15 Jul 14

London Red says...

Lets not forget Cooper was DIRECTLY ASKED about fans like Dazza constantly complaining about the young squad comment - to which the basis of this article was his response to that question
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Yet he then is mocked AGAIN by the same people for asnswering a direct question!!!!!!
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Also why has it worn thin - do people on here really think a young squad matures in to seaosned pros in 1 week, 1 month or even 1 season?
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Yes the players have to stand on their own 2 feet at some stage and with each passing game you would expect to see a general improvement - but it doesn't happen over night - other wise clubs like Man City and Chelsea would just throw out a bunch of promising kids and be world beaters a few games later!
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Also lets not forget one of Germany's wonder kids made a horrific mistkae in the final of the world cup - showing it happens to kids no matter how good they are!!!!!
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All he was saying is we are still young (fact) and probabaly going to be younger - so expect some mistakes during the season - however, he feels the ones who played a lot last year will be better for it so expect less from them
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It makes perfect sense to me!
Lets not forget Cooper was DIRECTLY ASKED about fans like Dazza constantly complaining about the young squad comment - to which the basis of this article was his response to that question . Yet he then is mocked AGAIN by the same people for asnswering a direct question!!!!!! . Also why has it worn thin - do people on here really think a young squad matures in to seaosned pros in 1 week, 1 month or even 1 season? . Yes the players have to stand on their own 2 feet at some stage and with each passing game you would expect to see a general improvement - but it doesn't happen over night - other wise clubs like Man City and Chelsea would just throw out a bunch of promising kids and be world beaters a few games later! . Also lets not forget one of Germany's wonder kids made a horrific mistkae in the final of the world cup - showing it happens to kids no matter how good they are!!!!! . All he was saying is we are still young (fact) and probabaly going to be younger - so expect some mistakes during the season - however, he feels the ones who played a lot last year will be better for it so expect less from them . It makes perfect sense to me! London Red
  • Score: 10

12:48pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Lambourn Red says...

£600k bid for Luongo from fatty evans at Rotherham turned down by the club according to Radio Wilts
£600k bid for Luongo from fatty evans at Rotherham turned down by the club according to Radio Wilts Lambourn Red
  • Score: 0

12:53pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Vintage Trouble says...

There's two sides to the arguement for/against youth. Last season we looked a lot stronger when some older members of the squad were taken out, Harley and Ward for example. However I think it's generally accepted by all that you need experience in a team, even if there not playing, but helping players in the dressing room/on the training pitch.

If MC thinks that kids will make mistakes/cost us points then theres only one person that can do anything about that. I personally will be disappointed if we don't bring in some experienced players before the start of the season to try and find a better blend.
There's two sides to the arguement for/against youth. Last season we looked a lot stronger when some older members of the squad were taken out, Harley and Ward for example. However I think it's generally accepted by all that you need experience in a team, even if there not playing, but helping players in the dressing room/on the training pitch. If MC thinks that kids will make mistakes/cost us points then theres only one person that can do anything about that. I personally will be disappointed if we don't bring in some experienced players before the start of the season to try and find a better blend. Vintage Trouble
  • Score: -1

1:07pm Tue 15 Jul 14

London Red says...

On the main BBC website now
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Swindon have rejected a £600,000 bid from Rotherham United for midfielder Massimo Luongo, BBC Wiltshire reports
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Town took 21-year-old Luongo on loan from Tottenham in March before paying £400,000 to sign him on a permanent contract six months later
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He made 53 appearances last season and was part of Australia's squad for the World Cup in Brazil
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Swindon chairman said the Millers' offer for Luongo was a "long way short" of their own valuation
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Note the last line LONG WAY SHORT - and think some of us were mocked for our valuations - yet they seem to be spot on with Powers!
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Good job some on here are not in charge as they would have sold Luongo for half that amount!
On the main BBC website now . Swindon have rejected a £600,000 bid from Rotherham United for midfielder Massimo Luongo, BBC Wiltshire reports . Town took 21-year-old Luongo on loan from Tottenham in March before paying £400,000 to sign him on a permanent contract six months later . He made 53 appearances last season and was part of Australia's squad for the World Cup in Brazil . Swindon chairman said the Millers' offer for Luongo was a "long way short" of their own valuation . Note the last line LONG WAY SHORT - and think some of us were mocked for our valuations - yet they seem to be spot on with Powers! . Good job some on here are not in charge as they would have sold Luongo for half that amount! London Red
  • Score: -1

1:23pm Tue 15 Jul 14

EastleazeRed says...

London Red wrote:
On the main BBC website now
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Swindon have rejected a £600,000 bid from Rotherham United for midfielder Massimo Luongo, BBC Wiltshire reports
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Town took 21-year-old Luongo on loan from Tottenham in March before paying £400,000 to sign him on a permanent contract six months later
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He made 53 appearances last season and was part of Australia's squad for the World Cup in Brazil
.
Swindon chairman said the Millers' offer for Luongo was a "long way short" of their own valuation
.
Note the last line LONG WAY SHORT - and think some of us were mocked for our valuations - yet they seem to be spot on with Powers!
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Good job some on here are not in charge as they would have sold Luongo for half that amount!
He'll be gone for less than that they need the money .
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: On the main BBC website now . Swindon have rejected a £600,000 bid from Rotherham United for midfielder Massimo Luongo, BBC Wiltshire reports . Town took 21-year-old Luongo on loan from Tottenham in March before paying £400,000 to sign him on a permanent contract six months later . He made 53 appearances last season and was part of Australia's squad for the World Cup in Brazil . Swindon chairman said the Millers' offer for Luongo was a "long way short" of their own valuation . Note the last line LONG WAY SHORT - and think some of us were mocked for our valuations - yet they seem to be spot on with Powers! . Good job some on here are not in charge as they would have sold Luongo for half that amount![/p][/quote]He'll be gone for less than that they need the money . EastleazeRed
  • Score: -8

1:41pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
On the main BBC website now
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Swindon have rejected a £600,000 bid from Rotherham United for midfielder Massimo Luongo, BBC Wiltshire reports
.
Town took 21-year-old Luongo on loan from Tottenham in March before paying £400,000 to sign him on a permanent contract six months later
.
He made 53 appearances last season and was part of Australia's squad for the World Cup in Brazil
.
Swindon chairman said the Millers' offer for Luongo was a "long way short" of their own valuation
.
Note the last line LONG WAY SHORT - and think some of us were mocked for our valuations - yet they seem to be spot on with Powers!
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Good job some on here are not in charge as they would have sold Luongo for half that amount!
Worth a try though from Evans, £400k not long back, plus a 50% premium for watching the World Cup. No harm in asking.

Very positive move though from Power, great news. Clear message we don't want to sell.

I'm in the camp that would like an experienced player or two in the squad, particularly at centre half. The Man U team Hansen referred to had Pallister Bruce and Schmeical at it's heart, so wasn't just kids.

Cooper can absolutely expect to get criticised if he's saying now that we're going to make mistakes through lack of experience, then not rectifying that problem, then trotting out the excuse after defeats. Ultimately if results are bad it's his job on the line so if his and Power's chosen policy is an average age of 21 then that's the risk he takes. History would suggest its unlikely to be successful?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: On the main BBC website now . Swindon have rejected a £600,000 bid from Rotherham United for midfielder Massimo Luongo, BBC Wiltshire reports . Town took 21-year-old Luongo on loan from Tottenham in March before paying £400,000 to sign him on a permanent contract six months later . He made 53 appearances last season and was part of Australia's squad for the World Cup in Brazil . Swindon chairman said the Millers' offer for Luongo was a "long way short" of their own valuation . Note the last line LONG WAY SHORT - and think some of us were mocked for our valuations - yet they seem to be spot on with Powers! . Good job some on here are not in charge as they would have sold Luongo for half that amount![/p][/quote]Worth a try though from Evans, £400k not long back, plus a 50% premium for watching the World Cup. No harm in asking. Very positive move though from Power, great news. Clear message we don't want to sell. I'm in the camp that would like an experienced player or two in the squad, particularly at centre half. The Man U team Hansen referred to had Pallister Bruce and Schmeical at it's heart, so wasn't just kids. Cooper can absolutely expect to get criticised if he's saying now that we're going to make mistakes through lack of experience, then not rectifying that problem, then trotting out the excuse after defeats. Ultimately if results are bad it's his job on the line so if his and Power's chosen policy is an average age of 21 then that's the risk he takes. History would suggest its unlikely to be successful? Wilesy
  • Score: 3

2:07pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Terence1882 says...

port de soller wrote:
Yes agree young players should be given the opportunity to play.Yet when you look at the squad a few new faces are needed as when you now look nearly all the high earners have gone????
STFC need to try under hard times to bring in Fresh Blood(it´s all very weel a player coming knocking the dor saying I need a trial,plus the afrikan ones MC found) who know´s he may unearth a real Gem sure hope so.
All I can say is good luck to STFC for coming season
Hope we are sailing in one boat, football is not about agencies, most of this footballers they have luck and talent, for the young Kalinga to get this chance is amazing story and all of us we are wishing him good luck to the club. hope he will make it to the first team. he came to STFC may be he is living locally, do you want him to go to Northampton
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Yes agree young players should be given the opportunity to play.Yet when you look at the squad a few new faces are needed as when you now look nearly all the high earners have gone???? STFC need to try under hard times to bring in Fresh Blood(it´s all very weel a player coming knocking the dor saying I need a trial,plus the afrikan ones MC found) who know´s he may unearth a real Gem sure hope so. All I can say is good luck to STFC for coming season[/p][/quote]Hope we are sailing in one boat, football is not about agencies, most of this footballers they have luck and talent, for the young Kalinga to get this chance is amazing story and all of us we are wishing him good luck to the club. hope he will make it to the first team. he came to STFC may be he is living locally, do you want him to go to Northampton Terence1882
  • Score: 1

2:48pm Tue 15 Jul 14

The Jockster says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
LeGod wrote:
i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here. Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish. I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it). Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here. Still cant work out if your the postman or letterbox?
Sorry LeGod but what you've put above is equal to or more ridiculous than anything Grim's ever said. He ocassionally gets on my nerves too but petty back and forths end up insulting both of you and doing you a disservice. There's witty banter and then there's the playground stuff we see on here - implying someone's gay as an insult and so forth. Grow up lads.
Spot on 84 when oh when will Le God & co. finally understand that Grims comments are aimed precisely at winding up those who can't see through his posts. At times his views are spot on and his wit is razor sharp eg- " go and buy Cameroon shirts" after rumours of match fixing at the CG.
Long may he continue to post and Le God take note - you're hardly likely to get him banned just because you don't like his posts and in fact given the tone of your post above I'd say you're more likely to get banned than Grim!
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: i just wonder if smirg kcab is married or has a girl friend or maybe he is the other type where he got on the wrong bus. Whatever he is he leads a very miserable and boring life always moaning, always negative and someone because of his constant negativitiy to me should be banned on here. Maybe if he is married or has a girl friend or the other type maybe he gets nagged at home and is totally dominated as he is a very weak character and therefore gets a thrill on here with his comments and 99% are ridiculous and stupid and childish. I still think he is a closet Pox fan (oh sorry smirg i said that word closet!!! you know what normally comes after that word but being the pc world we now live in i cant say it). Anyway smirg one day you may wake up from your miserable little life and put something positive and interesting on here. Still cant work out if your the postman or letterbox?[/p][/quote]Sorry LeGod but what you've put above is equal to or more ridiculous than anything Grim's ever said. He ocassionally gets on my nerves too but petty back and forths end up insulting both of you and doing you a disservice. There's witty banter and then there's the playground stuff we see on here - implying someone's gay as an insult and so forth. Grow up lads.[/p][/quote]Spot on 84 when oh when will Le God & co. finally understand that Grims comments are aimed precisely at winding up those who can't see through his posts. At times his views are spot on and his wit is razor sharp eg- " go and buy Cameroon shirts" after rumours of match fixing at the CG. Long may he continue to post and Le God take note - you're hardly likely to get him banned just because you don't like his posts and in fact given the tone of your post above I'd say you're more likely to get banned than Grim! The Jockster
  • Score: -1

3:27pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.
It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Tue 15 Jul 14

smirg kcab says...

Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.
I think the huge sell on fee is the stumbling block den
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.[/p][/quote]I think the huge sell on fee is the stumbling block den smirg kcab
  • Score: -1

3:53pm Tue 15 Jul 14

swwindon61uk says...

Frampton58 wrote:
Old players are no guarantee that mistakes will not be made. At least young ones have the energy and speed to back track to make amends.
Just remember what Hanson said ' you cannot win with youth '! So it is up to Mr Cooper and his 'babies' to prove that youth can triumph.
Ward showed that last season.
[quote][p][bold]Frampton58[/bold] wrote: Old players are no guarantee that mistakes will not be made. At least young ones have the energy and speed to back track to make amends. Just remember what Hanson said ' you cannot win with youth '! So it is up to Mr Cooper and his 'babies' to prove that youth can triumph.[/p][/quote]Ward showed that last season. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

4:49pm Tue 15 Jul 14

eyesrightskinbacktight says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.
I think the huge sell on fee is the stumbling block den
Quite right, I know a lass in the hospitality department who is under the impression the sell on clause is 35%. Not sure if either that's right nor is it on the whole selling figure or just the £200K profit. Also unsure of how she knows this as even she states its not her department but she is a bonny lass and can be quite persuasive when she wants.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.[/p][/quote]I think the huge sell on fee is the stumbling block den[/p][/quote]Quite right, I know a lass in the hospitality department who is under the impression the sell on clause is 35%. Not sure if either that's right nor is it on the whole selling figure or just the £200K profit. Also unsure of how she knows this as even she states its not her department but she is a bonny lass and can be quite persuasive when she wants. eyesrightskinbacktight
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Tue 15 Jul 14

the don69 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.
I think the huge sell on fee is the stumbling block den
Yep not worth selling with a huge sell on fee due to Spurs! I see Hockaday is giving that choir-boy Nile Ranger a chance to train at Leeds, I bet the Leeds faithful will luv him when they watch him play, but will he behave??????????
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly good that Power is resisting bids for our better players. £600k is not a bad offer based on his form to date. In a year's time we'll all have a better idea of what he's worth. If someone is prepared to pay £600k now, an excellent season would take him into the £1m bracket. A patchy one like last season would indicate that perhaps he's not the player many of us thought he was when he arrived.[/p][/quote]I think the huge sell on fee is the stumbling block den[/p][/quote]Yep not worth selling with a huge sell on fee due to Spurs! I see Hockaday is giving that choir-boy Nile Ranger a chance to train at Leeds, I bet the Leeds faithful will luv him when they watch him play, but will he behave?????????? the don69
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Tue 15 Jul 14

dazzastfc says...

South Stand wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Whatever you say Glenda.
Sorry mouth stand...
Glenda is not home today but by the sounds of it your loverboy cooperman is....
Have a nice day
[quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Whatever you say Glenda.[/p][/quote]Sorry mouth stand... Glenda is not home today but by the sounds of it your loverboy cooperman is.... Have a nice day dazzastfc
  • Score: -3

5:20pm Tue 15 Jul 14

dazzastfc says...

London Red wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Bit like you then who has started already!
HA HA
Listen to one of the may 2 faced heads on here....
STICK TO YA STATES OF IFS AND BUTS..
Mr no it all....
.When the season starts and we are falling like a lead balloon your soon be winging JUST LIKE THE REST OF YA
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Bit like you then who has started already![/p][/quote]HA HA Listen to one of the may 2 faced heads on here.... STICK TO YA STATES OF IFS AND BUTS.. Mr no it all.... .When the season starts and we are falling like a lead balloon your soon be winging JUST LIKE THE REST OF YA dazzastfc
  • Score: -3

5:57pm Tue 15 Jul 14

London Red says...

dazzastfc wrote:
London Red wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Bit like you then who has started already!
HA HA
Listen to one of the may 2 faced heads on here....
STICK TO YA STATES OF IFS AND BUTS..
Mr no it all....
.When the season starts and we are falling like a lead balloon your soon be winging JUST LIKE THE REST OF YA
If you knew how to be ironic you would be really funny!
.
You like now claimed we were relegation fodder this time last season - then said Cooper should be sacked with the squad he had at his disposal as we should have gone up
.
Then claim others are 2 faced - brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Bit like you then who has started already![/p][/quote]HA HA Listen to one of the may 2 faced heads on here.... STICK TO YA STATES OF IFS AND BUTS.. Mr no it all.... .When the season starts and we are falling like a lead balloon your soon be winging JUST LIKE THE REST OF YA[/p][/quote]If you knew how to be ironic you would be really funny! . You like now claimed we were relegation fodder this time last season - then said Cooper should be sacked with the squad he had at his disposal as we should have gone up . Then claim others are 2 faced - brilliant! London Red
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Tue 15 Jul 14

dazzastfc says...

London Red wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
London Red wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
ITS started all ready.....
You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up...

People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...
Bit like you then who has started already!
HA HA
Listen to one of the may 2 faced heads on here....
STICK TO YA STATES OF IFS AND BUTS..
Mr no it all....
.When the season starts and we are falling like a lead balloon your soon be winging JUST LIKE THE REST OF YA
If you knew how to be ironic you would be really funny!
.
You like now claimed we were relegation fodder this time last season - then said Cooper should be sacked with the squad he had at his disposal as we should have gone up
.
Then claim others are 2 faced - brilliant!
Were did i say this time last season we would be relegated ??...
I did say we could get relegated if we dont get out of are 16 game
win less run...you no the time we got 15 points from 48..ring any bells

YES I DID say Cooper should be sacked with the squad he had at his disposal..
With a more creative manager we would have gone up .
BUT THAT IS MY OPINION...
I really hope cooper proves me wrong BUT I DONT THINK HE WILL and thats MY OPINION and if other think different then fairplay to them as that is there opinion
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: ITS started all ready..... You know its a young team so why not bring in a couple of older pros to mix it up... People wonder why the season ticket sales are down...[/p][/quote]Bit like you then who has started already![/p][/quote]HA HA Listen to one of the may 2 faced heads on here.... STICK TO YA STATES OF IFS AND BUTS.. Mr no it all.... .When the season starts and we are falling like a lead balloon your soon be winging JUST LIKE THE REST OF YA[/p][/quote]If you knew how to be ironic you would be really funny! . You like now claimed we were relegation fodder this time last season - then said Cooper should be sacked with the squad he had at his disposal as we should have gone up . Then claim others are 2 faced - brilliant![/p][/quote]Were did i say this time last season we would be relegated ??... I did say we could get relegated if we dont get out of are 16 game win less run...you no the time we got 15 points from 48..ring any bells YES I DID say Cooper should be sacked with the squad he had at his disposal.. With a more creative manager we would have gone up . BUT THAT IS MY OPINION... I really hope cooper proves me wrong BUT I DONT THINK HE WILL and thats MY OPINION and if other think different then fairplay to them as that is there opinion dazzastfc
  • Score: -3

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