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1:40pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Lazaat says...

Just arrived at the ground, seems like street parking only but a lot of streets are permits only so if you are driving get here early! Sunny and dry here.
Just arrived at the ground, seems like street parking only but a lot of streets are permits only so if you are driving get here early! Sunny and dry here. Lazaat
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2:42pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Rebel_phish says...

Going to be tough game today, but if the Town can get in front, I feel that we should get the result. But Bury have a new manager and, as we saw against Colchester, could make things difficult for us.
Going to be tough game today, but if the Town can get in front, I feel that we should get the result. But Bury have a new manager and, as we saw against Colchester, could make things difficult for us. Rebel_phish
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2:46pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Hadn't bargained on Miller as Captain, hope he has a decent game.

Why Bessone instead of RDV ? is he injured ?

But if you want a real laugh,

I found this earlier,


Peter Shirtliff hopes to remain part of Bury coaching staff

Peter Shirtliff is keen to remain at Bury, despite being overlooked for the managerial vacancy at Gigg Lane.

Shirtliff has been caretaker manager since Richie Barker's departure to Crawley last month, but the Shakers have yet to win a match under him.


They didn't win under the Shirtlifter, now that is a surprise, NOT, chortle.
Hadn't bargained on Miller as Captain, hope he has a decent game. Why Bessone instead of RDV ? is he injured ? But if you want a real laugh, I found this earlier, Peter Shirtliff hopes to remain part of Bury coaching staff Peter Shirtliff is keen to remain at Bury, despite being overlooked for the managerial vacancy at Gigg Lane. Shirtliff has been caretaker manager since Richie Barker's departure to Crawley last month, but the Shakers have yet to win a match under him. They didn't win under the Shirtlifter, now that is a surprise, NOT, chortle. the wizard
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3:08pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

!-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.
!-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good. the wizard
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3:11pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Oxon-Red says...

the wizard wrote:
!-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.
Wizard,

BBC has Ritchie as the goal scorer !

Who was it ? Hope it was Collins, just the tonic he needs.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: !-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.[/p][/quote]Wizard, BBC has Ritchie as the goal scorer ! Who was it ? Hope it was Collins, just the tonic he needs. COYMR Oxon-Red
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3:16pm Sat 6 Oct 12

smirg kcab says...

Wot a goal that was
Onwards and upwards
Wot a goal that was Onwards and upwards smirg kcab
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3:31pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
!-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.
Wizard,

BBC has Ritchie as the goal scorer !

Who was it ? Hope it was Collins, just the tonic he needs.

COYMR
I know there is a difference but above on this article it says Collins, from a Ritchie ball in from the wing.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: !-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.[/p][/quote]Wizard, BBC has Ritchie as the goal scorer ! Who was it ? Hope it was Collins, just the tonic he needs. COYMR[/p][/quote]I know there is a difference but above on this article it says Collins, from a Ritchie ball in from the wing. the wizard
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3:47pm Sat 6 Oct 12

SeanG92 says...

It was Collins who scored :)

Fantastic start to the match, but been 2nd best for the majority of the rest of it.
It was Collins who scored :) Fantastic start to the match, but been 2nd best for the majority of the rest of it. SeanG92
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3:50pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Steve. Brentford says...

the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
!-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.
Wizard,

BBC has Ritchie as the goal scorer !

Who was it ? Hope it was Collins, just the tonic he needs.

COYMR
I know there is a difference but above on this article it says Collins, from a Ritchie ball in from the wing.
Collins goal and i agree it will do his confidence a world of good.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: !-0 after 25 seconds, can't be bad,hope he gets a hat trick, will do his confidence the world of good.[/p][/quote]Wizard, BBC has Ritchie as the goal scorer ! Who was it ? Hope it was Collins, just the tonic he needs. COYMR[/p][/quote]I know there is a difference but above on this article it says Collins, from a Ritchie ball in from the wing.[/p][/quote]Collins goal and i agree it will do his confidence a world of good. Steve. Brentford
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3:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12

stigger says...

been away with work for a week, not that i missed much by reviews of tuesday, the old man said it was abject but hoping we push on in 2nd half and get back on track today. Pleased Collins netted, COYR!
been away with work for a week, not that i missed much by reviews of tuesday, the old man said it was abject but hoping we push on in 2nd half and get back on track today. Pleased Collins netted, COYR! stigger
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3:57pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Seems they are dominating us at times, we need to change something and turn it around. They are growing in confidence, so we need to mix it up a bit.

If ever was the time, this is it, Plan B please.
Seems they are dominating us at times, we need to change something and turn it around. They are growing in confidence, so we need to mix it up a bit. If ever was the time, this is it, Plan B please. the wizard
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4:30pm Sat 6 Oct 12

stigger says...

sounds like Rooney's had a ton of efforts since coming on, COYR
sounds like Rooney's had a ton of efforts since coming on, COYR stigger
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4:46pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Squeeky bum time.
Squeeky bum time. the wizard
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4:56pm Sat 6 Oct 12

stigger says...

get in!!
get in!! stigger
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4:57pm Sat 6 Oct 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

GET IN THERE A FANTASTIC WIN 2DAY....
3points and another clean sheat....

CAN WE PLAY AWAY EVERY WEEK ??
GET IN THERE A FANTASTIC WIN 2DAY.... 3points and another clean sheat.... CAN WE PLAY AWAY EVERY WEEK ?? DarrenSTFCRomain
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5:00pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

A bit sceptical before the start, would have liked a second goal for safety, but well done Town
A bit sceptical before the start, would have liked a second goal for safety, but well done Town the wizard
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5:01pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Hampshire_ReD says...

Full Time and 3 points.. phew.

At the end of the day, the points are all that matter - but I can't see us staying near the top of the table, if we struggle to beat the teams at the bottom.

Starting to think Paolo needs to dip into the Loan Market, for a very physical defensive midfielder who can tackle well, and hold the ball up.

A. Rooney's goals per game time is not really not looking good.

Delighted Collins scored.
Full Time and 3 points.. phew. At the end of the day, the points are all that matter - but I can't see us staying near the top of the table, if we struggle to beat the teams at the bottom. Starting to think Paolo needs to dip into the Loan Market, for a very physical defensive midfielder who can tackle well, and hold the ball up. A. Rooney's goals per game time is not really not looking good. Delighted Collins scored. Hampshire_ReD
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5:05pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Davidsyrett says...

That will do, 3 ugly points. No Macca and clean sheet, lets try keeping faith with the back 4 for a few games and see what happens.

COYR
That will do, 3 ugly points. No Macca and clean sheet, lets try keeping faith with the back 4 for a few games and see what happens. COYR Davidsyrett
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5:21pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points.

Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.
Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points. Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today. the wizard
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5:29pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

the wizard wrote:
Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points.

Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.
Oh dear no a transfer embargo hits the town.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points. Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.[/p][/quote]Oh dear no a transfer embargo hits the town. jayden
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5:30pm Sat 6 Oct 12

mallorca says...

Great result,but what is all this about a trransfere embargo?????
thought those days were over.Pdc's Post Match interview he did not sound a happy bunny.
OK Pdc has passion but why has our megaa rich Board not paid what the tribunial awarded to Exeter and shrewsbury.Just hope the well has not run dry,compared to other clubs we get decent gates but I dread to think what the wage bill is.
Lets hope it can all be sorted out
Great result,but what is all this about a trransfere embargo????? thought those days were over.Pdc's Post Match interview he did not sound a happy bunny. OK Pdc has passion but why has our megaa rich Board not paid what the tribunial awarded to Exeter and shrewsbury.Just hope the well has not run dry,compared to other clubs we get decent gates but I dread to think what the wage bill is. Lets hope it can all be sorted out mallorca
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5:30pm Sat 6 Oct 12

mallorca says...

Great result,but what is all this about a trransfere embargo?????
thought those days were over.Pdc's Post Match interview he did not sound a happy bunny.
OK Pdc has passion but why has our megaa rich Board not paid what the tribunial awarded to Exeter and shrewsbury.Just hope the well has not run dry,compared to other clubs we get decent gates but I dread to think what the wage bill is.
Lets hope it can all be sorted out
Great result,but what is all this about a trransfere embargo????? thought those days were over.Pdc's Post Match interview he did not sound a happy bunny. OK Pdc has passion but why has our megaa rich Board not paid what the tribunial awarded to Exeter and shrewsbury.Just hope the well has not run dry,compared to other clubs we get decent gates but I dread to think what the wage bill is. Lets hope it can all be sorted out mallorca
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5:31pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

jayden wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points.

Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.
Oh dear no a transfer embargo hits the town.
Now that should have read.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points. Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.[/p][/quote]Oh dear no a transfer embargo hits the town.[/p][/quote]Now that should have read. jayden
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5:37pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

jayden wrote:
jayden wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points.

Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.
Oh dear no a transfer embargo hits the town.
Now that should have read.
Ithought the board had stumpted up a extra million for transfers ,if so why have not paid the two clubs ,mind it was only two weeks ago the fees were set i would expect it would take 4 weeks the end of this month.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points. Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.[/p][/quote]Oh dear no a transfer embargo hits the town.[/p][/quote]Now that should have read.[/p][/quote]Ithought the board had stumpted up a extra million for transfers ,if so why have not paid the two clubs ,mind it was only two weeks ago the fees were set i would expect it would take 4 weeks the end of this month. jayden
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5:40pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I jayden
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5:41pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

jayden wrote:
Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
Really ???? LOL !!!!
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I[/p][/quote]Really ???? LOL !!!! the wizard
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5:44pm Sat 6 Oct 12

mallorca says...

just heard clubs have been paid however we have gone over the wage cap.Perhaps the Board will do as Crawley did last year pump some more money in.
Pdc did not sound his normal self
just heard clubs have been paid however we have gone over the wage cap.Perhaps the Board will do as Crawley did last year pump some more money in. Pdc did not sound his normal self mallorca
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5:44pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

the wizard wrote:
jayden wrote:
Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
Really ???? LOL !!!!
But is willing to work a 60hr day
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I[/p][/quote]Really ???? LOL !!!![/p][/quote]But is willing to work a 60hr day jayden
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5:47pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

mallorca wrote:
just heard clubs have been paid however we have gone over the wage cap.Perhaps the Board will do as Crawley did last year pump some more money in.
Pdc did not sound his normal self
Not his usual ott self lol
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: just heard clubs have been paid however we have gone over the wage cap.Perhaps the Board will do as Crawley did last year pump some more money in. Pdc did not sound his normal self[/p][/quote]Not his usual ott self lol jayden
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5:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Lets say there is a concern here, as opposed to anything else. Jay Wray seems to be a pretty shrewd sort of bloke to me, I'm sure this "Embargo" stuff will be sorted quite soon. I'm very surprised that with this board and the accounting system they have in place this has happened. I thought part of the £4M package in the summer was for something like this, perhaps we under estimated the tribunals fee's.
Lets say there is a concern here, as opposed to anything else. Jay Wray seems to be a pretty shrewd sort of bloke to me, I'm sure this "Embargo" stuff will be sorted quite soon. I'm very surprised that with this board and the accounting system they have in place this has happened. I thought part of the £4M package in the summer was for something like this, perhaps we under estimated the tribunals fee's. the wizard
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5:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

Well done lads a good scrappy win ,thats me for tonight as all the trolls will be on here tonight.
Well done lads a good scrappy win ,thats me for tonight as all the trolls will be on here tonight. jayden
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6:00pm Sat 6 Oct 12

stfc2012 says...

Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively
Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively stfc2012
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6:04pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

stfc2012 wrote:
Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively
This is only a post match interview, lets wait and see what Wray has to say before making any assumptions. The board want this club up in the CCC and Wray has said so, so the numbers involved are small fry in the overall picture of ground re development etc.
[quote][p][bold]stfc2012[/bold] wrote: Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively[/p][/quote]This is only a post match interview, lets wait and see what Wray has to say before making any assumptions. The board want this club up in the CCC and Wray has said so, so the numbers involved are small fry in the overall picture of ground re development etc. the wizard
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6:09pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Exmouth_red69 says...

the wizard wrote:
A bit sceptical before the start, would have liked a second goal for safety, but well done Town
A bit sceptical, no not you wizard. Haha
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: A bit sceptical before the start, would have liked a second goal for safety, but well done Town[/p][/quote]A bit sceptical, no not you wizard. Haha Exmouth_red69
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6:19pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Exmouth_red69 wrote:
the wizard wrote:
A bit sceptical before the start, would have liked a second goal for safety, but well done Town
A bit sceptical, no not you wizard. Haha
Read my post s from last night.

I N F O R M A T I O N

Please see the main page for a statement from Wray about the transfer embargo, where it is all explained.
[quote][p][bold]Exmouth_red69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: A bit sceptical before the start, would have liked a second goal for safety, but well done Town[/p][/quote]A bit sceptical, no not you wizard. Haha[/p][/quote]Read my post s from last night. I N F O R M A T I O N Please see the main page for a statement from Wray about the transfer embargo, where it is all explained. the wizard
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6:42pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Malkym says...

the wizard wrote:
jayden wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
Really ???? LOL !!!!
And Jayden did you hear him say" I will stay here forever" but also they!! might sack Di Canio.

Wasn't at the game and only heard 2nd half commentary - a hard fought win was what I ascertained and the best bit of commentary for me? "Flint -two great defensive headers there" & "Flint was able to get his long legs in there to get the ball to safety" -music to my ears -"there's only one Aden Flinty...!!"

Clearly not Paolo's 1st choice team due to injuries -so well done lads, Collins off the mark and 3points hard earned.

the wizard says...
5:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Lets say there is a concern here - the Malky says - Lets say there is no concern here -fuss about nothing leave the off field admin to JW & the on field strategies to "Canioman" -oops I mean PdC -Canioman PMSL - I'm with Steve on that one.

stfc2012 says...
6:00pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively”

A wild OTT reaction methinks 2012 - Paolo merely said that if he can't bring in the players he wants(because of the Embargo) he can't guarantee promotion -therefore he might have to revise his expectations if any such limit of bringing in new blood remained in place. He also said he has a fantastic relationship with JW so I can't imagine that such a lttle hiccup would result in PdC walking - if that's what you mean by your comment?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I[/p][/quote]Really ???? LOL !!!![/p][/quote]And Jayden did you hear him say" I will stay here forever" but also they!! might sack Di Canio. Wasn't at the game and only heard 2nd half commentary - a hard fought win was what I ascertained and the best bit of commentary for me? "Flint -two great defensive headers there" & "Flint was able to get his long legs in there to get the ball to safety" -music to my ears -"there's only one Aden Flinty...!!" Clearly not Paolo's 1st choice team due to injuries -so well done lads, Collins off the mark and 3points hard earned. the wizard says... 5:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12 Lets say there is a concern here - the Malky says - Lets say there is no concern here -fuss about nothing leave the off field admin to JW & the on field strategies to "Canioman" -oops I mean PdC -Canioman PMSL - I'm with Steve on that one. stfc2012 says... 6:00pm Sat 6 Oct 12 Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively” A wild OTT reaction methinks 2012 - Paolo merely said that if he can't bring in the players he wants(because of the Embargo) he can't guarantee promotion -therefore he might have to revise his expectations if any such limit of bringing in new blood remained in place. He also said he has a fantastic relationship with JW so I can't imagine that such a lttle hiccup would result in PdC walking - if that's what you mean by your comment? Malkym
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6:46pm Sat 6 Oct 12

mancrobin says...

Not sure I se what is so bad about this embargo apart from DiCanio trying to negotiate with the Board in public.

Firstly, it sounds like a temporary situation and secondly I'm not sure we need more players. Why isn't Bostock or Storey getting a game.

I think Paolo should keep quiet and get on with it. Then he might prove himself a good manager. I certainly do not want us to return to the days of living beyond our means and having to wait for someone to bail us out.
Not sure I se what is so bad about this embargo apart from DiCanio trying to negotiate with the Board in public. Firstly, it sounds like a temporary situation and secondly I'm not sure we need more players. Why isn't Bostock or Storey getting a game. I think Paolo should keep quiet and get on with it. Then he might prove himself a good manager. I certainly do not want us to return to the days of living beyond our means and having to wait for someone to bail us out. mancrobin
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7:02pm Sat 6 Oct 12

red white says...

jayden wrote:
Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
He is God.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I[/p][/quote]He is God. red white
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7:08pm Sat 6 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Malkym,

Hello, you rascal.

Well of course it was a concern, but I did say to wait until Wray had made a statement, and he did a few minutes later, and while all is not totally brilliant, its nowhere near where we have been, and as I said, with the accounting system they have in place I could not see things being that bad. Add to that I was about right on all counts, mischief maker.

Back to footie and well pleased with the three points from a side which obviously reflected injuries in the ranks.
Right then, that's all from me this evening, No doubt some trolls will be out later, but in my mind we have nothing to worry about and Canioman is here for a while yet, quite a while.
Can't see him falling out with Wray and now with the Embargo in place he can show his true skills and increase the skill level of our players by the 25-30% he claimed earlier. Testing times ahead, but interesting as well.

And I thought Embargo made kids toys,LOL !!!!!!
Malkym, Hello, you rascal. Well of course it was a concern, but I did say to wait until Wray had made a statement, and he did a few minutes later, and while all is not totally brilliant, its nowhere near where we have been, and as I said, with the accounting system they have in place I could not see things being that bad. Add to that I was about right on all counts, mischief maker. Back to footie and well pleased with the three points from a side which obviously reflected injuries in the ranks. Right then, that's all from me this evening, No doubt some trolls will be out later, but in my mind we have nothing to worry about and Canioman is here for a while yet, quite a while. Can't see him falling out with Wray and now with the Embargo in place he can show his true skills and increase the skill level of our players by the 25-30% he claimed earlier. Testing times ahead, but interesting as well. And I thought Embargo made kids toys,LOL !!!!!! the wizard
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7:17pm Sat 6 Oct 12

stfc2012 says...

I know what he's saying malkym. It's a rather non cryptic way of saying he's off if he can't have any more players. I think we have enough and he just wants more and more. Maybe another bostock to sit on the bench who knows. To talk like this in public is very unprofessional. He should have an idea with the numbers and limitations that this was a possibility. The board will only take this for so long and although I can't see him leaving immediately it will be interesting to see if he kicks off with the board as we all now how he deals with a difference of opinion. It would be a shame but managers come and go and it's fair to say he has done well so far but that's about it. Well. Can he manage at the top? Maybe, but chairman will be weary and won't all be west ham supporters like ours. Hopefully Austin gets sold in jan and we free up some cash.
I know what he's saying malkym. It's a rather non cryptic way of saying he's off if he can't have any more players. I think we have enough and he just wants more and more. Maybe another bostock to sit on the bench who knows. To talk like this in public is very unprofessional. He should have an idea with the numbers and limitations that this was a possibility. The board will only take this for so long and although I can't see him leaving immediately it will be interesting to see if he kicks off with the board as we all now how he deals with a difference of opinion. It would be a shame but managers come and go and it's fair to say he has done well so far but that's about it. Well. Can he manage at the top? Maybe, but chairman will be weary and won't all be west ham supporters like ours. Hopefully Austin gets sold in jan and we free up some cash. stfc2012
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7:19pm Sat 6 Oct 12

jayden says...

Malkym wrote:
the wizard wrote:
jayden wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
Really ???? LOL !!!!
And Jayden did you hear him say" I will stay here forever" but also they!! might sack Di Canio.

Wasn't at the game and only heard 2nd half commentary - a hard fought win was what I ascertained and the best bit of commentary for me? "Flint -two great defensive headers there" & "Flint was able to get his long legs in there to get the ball to safety" -music to my ears -"there's only one Aden Flinty...!!"

Clearly not Paolo's 1st choice team due to injuries -so well done lads, Collins off the mark and 3points hard earned.

the wizard says...
5:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Lets say there is a concern here - the Malky says - Lets say there is no concern here -fuss about nothing leave the off field admin to JW & the on field strategies to "Canioman" -oops I mean PdC -Canioman PMSL - I'm with Steve on that one.

stfc2012 says...
6:00pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively”

A wild OTT reaction methinks 2012 - Paolo merely said that if he can't bring in the players he wants(because of the Embargo) he can't guarantee promotion -therefore he might have to revise his expectations if any such limit of bringing in new blood remained in place. He also said he has a fantastic relationship with JW so I can't imagine that such a lttle hiccup would result in PdC walking - if that's what you mean by your comment?
Nice one Malkym, yeath i think pdc was only asking if he was to work 24hrs a day or 60 ,yeah im with steve as well i was on tues anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I[/p][/quote]Really ???? LOL !!!![/p][/quote]And Jayden did you hear him say" I will stay here forever" but also they!! might sack Di Canio. Wasn't at the game and only heard 2nd half commentary - a hard fought win was what I ascertained and the best bit of commentary for me? "Flint -two great defensive headers there" & "Flint was able to get his long legs in there to get the ball to safety" -music to my ears -"there's only one Aden Flinty...!!" Clearly not Paolo's 1st choice team due to injuries -so well done lads, Collins off the mark and 3points hard earned. the wizard says... 5:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12 Lets say there is a concern here - the Malky says - Lets say there is no concern here -fuss about nothing leave the off field admin to JW & the on field strategies to "Canioman" -oops I mean PdC -Canioman PMSL - I'm with Steve on that one. stfc2012 says... 6:00pm Sat 6 Oct 12 Few managerial openings around... Can't see this ending positively” A wild OTT reaction methinks 2012 - Paolo merely said that if he can't bring in the players he wants(because of the Embargo) he can't guarantee promotion -therefore he might have to revise his expectations if any such limit of bringing in new blood remained in place. He also said he has a fantastic relationship with JW so I can't imagine that such a lttle hiccup would result in PdC walking - if that's what you mean by your comment?[/p][/quote]Nice one Malkym, yeath i think pdc was only asking if he was to work 24hrs a day or 60 ,yeah im with steve as well i was on tues anyway. jayden
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7:20pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Stratton Red says...

red white wrote:
jayden wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I
He is God.
No, he's just a man, who's a talent for football...
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Great quote from Pdc "i am not God"I[/p][/quote]He is God.[/p][/quote]No, he's just a man, who's a talent for football... Stratton Red
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7:27pm Sat 6 Oct 12

stfc2012 says...

the wizard wrote:
Malkym,

Hello, you rascal.

Well of course it was a concern, but I did say to wait until Wray had made a statement, and he did a few minutes later, and while all is not totally brilliant, its nowhere near where we have been, and as I said, with the accounting system they have in place I could not see things being that bad. Add to that I was about right on all counts, mischief maker.

Back to footie and well pleased with the three points from a side which obviously reflected injuries in the ranks.
Right then, that's all from me this evening, No doubt some trolls will be out later, but in my mind we have nothing to worry about and Canioman is here for a while yet, quite a while.
Can't see him falling out with Wray and now with the Embargo in place he can show his true skills and increase the skill level of our players by the 25-30% he claimed earlier. Testing times ahead, but interesting as well.

And I thought Embargo made kids toys,LOL !!!!!!
He's not really the manager to nurture talent and either way this should have been happening anyway. We've bought up and loaned whoever we can and now we are upset with this embargo? Should have seen it coming. Most of our lads are playing through fear. Some said over a year ago that the way we are going the money spent will cause problems. Everyone replying saying that our board knew what they were doing and our manager was a genius. Both may be true but we'll see how it pans out season end when all will be revealed
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Malkym, Hello, you rascal. Well of course it was a concern, but I did say to wait until Wray had made a statement, and he did a few minutes later, and while all is not totally brilliant, its nowhere near where we have been, and as I said, with the accounting system they have in place I could not see things being that bad. Add to that I was about right on all counts, mischief maker. Back to footie and well pleased with the three points from a side which obviously reflected injuries in the ranks. Right then, that's all from me this evening, No doubt some trolls will be out later, but in my mind we have nothing to worry about and Canioman is here for a while yet, quite a while. Can't see him falling out with Wray and now with the Embargo in place he can show his true skills and increase the skill level of our players by the 25-30% he claimed earlier. Testing times ahead, but interesting as well. And I thought Embargo made kids toys,LOL !!!!!![/p][/quote]He's not really the manager to nurture talent and either way this should have been happening anyway. We've bought up and loaned whoever we can and now we are upset with this embargo? Should have seen it coming. Most of our lads are playing through fear. Some said over a year ago that the way we are going the money spent will cause problems. Everyone replying saying that our board knew what they were doing and our manager was a genius. Both may be true but we'll see how it pans out season end when all will be revealed stfc2012
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7:30pm Sat 6 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

I guess it has all given the doomsday bods something to grab onto until the oil of Wray and PDC's comments force them to lose grip yet again.
---.
Club had to pay more out than expected (unforeseen circumstance), Paolo can't guarantee promotion and therefore the board may sack him (not really), too many injuries for him to guarantee being where he said he'd be in November.
---.
Time for the players to step up to the mark and give us a nice big win home to Coventry!!....unless he's trying to throw Villa off the scent!?
---.
Back up to 4th place - PLEASE let's get 6 points from the next two home games - albeit yet another one of them has a new manager!?....please Scunny don't sack yours before we play you!!
I guess it has all given the doomsday bods something to grab onto until the oil of Wray and PDC's comments force them to lose grip yet again. ---. Club had to pay more out than expected (unforeseen circumstance), Paolo can't guarantee promotion and therefore the board may sack him (not really), too many injuries for him to guarantee being where he said he'd be in November. ---. Time for the players to step up to the mark and give us a nice big win home to Coventry!!....unless he's trying to throw Villa off the scent!? ---. Back up to 4th place - PLEASE let's get 6 points from the next two home games - albeit yet another one of them has a new manager!?....please Scunny don't sack yours before we play you!! SAPFanSTFC
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7:39pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Robinonfire says...

Great result keep Ferry and Thompson in for Coventry game.....Start with Benson Rooney up front.

Come on you reds
Great result keep Ferry and Thompson in for Coventry game.....Start with Benson Rooney up front. Come on you reds Robinonfire
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7:41pm Sat 6 Oct 12

red white says...

the wizard wrote:
Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points.

Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.
We could have lost this,we won.

No one cares apart from us,wait until the end of April.

Watch us go up,watch our Paolo,where he is taking us and what it means to him and us all.

We're going up,we're going up..repeat endlessly....
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Not trying to say, "I told you so" but Bury are a bit like C'chester, they have a new manager and are out to impress. I dare say that Blackwell's experience in the managerial seat also paid some dividends as goes the way they approached todays game. Last night I would have taken the 0-0 draw I thought this game would pan out to. Very,very pleased for Collins and the three points. Still a lot of hard work to do back in training, but again I see this as a forward step. A BIG no MASSIVE "well done" to those that got there today.[/p][/quote]We could have lost this,we won. No one cares apart from us,wait until the end of April. Watch us go up,watch our Paolo,where he is taking us and what it means to him and us all. We're going up,we're going up..repeat endlessly.... red white
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7:48pm Sat 6 Oct 12

mikek says...

Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested. mikek
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7:56pm Sat 6 Oct 12

NEWBURYREDS says...

Just got home in Notts well great start but 1st half was cr#p. I thought rooney looked quite good 2nd half and we defended well. I think wes only had 1 real save to make, still a lot of hard work needed. but 3 much needed points. well done lads
Just got home in Notts well great start but 1st half was cr#p. I thought rooney looked quite good 2nd half and we defended well. I think wes only had 1 real save to make, still a lot of hard work needed. but 3 much needed points. well done lads NEWBURYREDS
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8:25pm Sat 6 Oct 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

the wizard wrote:
Lets say there is a concern here, as opposed to anything else. Jay Wray seems to be a pretty shrewd sort of bloke to me, I'm sure this "Embargo" stuff will be sorted quite soon. I'm very surprised that with this board and the accounting system they have in place this has happened. I thought part of the £4M package in the summer was for something like this, perhaps we under estimated the tribunals fee's.
Think your find that MOST of the budget went on paying off the crap that we signed last season...
Most were on good money and signed 2year deals..

BUT THEN AGAIN STFC should know the rules....

And whats Paolo saying here ?.
To me it sounds like hes saying if we cant get players in im off..
or is that just me jumping the gun a bit?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Lets say there is a concern here, as opposed to anything else. Jay Wray seems to be a pretty shrewd sort of bloke to me, I'm sure this "Embargo" stuff will be sorted quite soon. I'm very surprised that with this board and the accounting system they have in place this has happened. I thought part of the £4M package in the summer was for something like this, perhaps we under estimated the tribunals fee's.[/p][/quote]Think your find that MOST of the budget went on paying off the crap that we signed last season... Most were on good money and signed 2year deals.. BUT THEN AGAIN STFC should know the rules.... And whats Paolo saying here ?. To me it sounds like hes saying if we cant get players in im off.. or is that just me jumping the gun a bit? DarrenSTFCRomain
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8:29pm Sat 6 Oct 12

red white says...

Can we have 3 halfs ?
Can we have 3 halfs ? red white
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8:47pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Another view says...

Swindon wouldn't be Swindon without some hiccups along the way. But J Wray's explanation that the tribunal said the two transfers must be paid this season and not over two seasons puts things into perspective. Annoying, but surely not a major problem for this board.

On the field another 3 away points are very welcome, especially considering the injuries we have. Slowly things are coming together, which is still a lot earlier than last year.
Swindon wouldn't be Swindon without some hiccups along the way. But J Wray's explanation that the tribunal said the two transfers must be paid this season and not over two seasons puts things into perspective. Annoying, but surely not a major problem for this board. On the field another 3 away points are very welcome, especially considering the injuries we have. Slowly things are coming together, which is still a lot earlier than last year. Another view
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9:21pm Sat 6 Oct 12

smirg kcab says...

Flint and ferry were awesome today.a great save from the keeper to keep them still in the game, well earned 3 points, see why they are bottom
Onwards and upwards
Flint and ferry were awesome today.a great save from the keeper to keep them still in the game, well earned 3 points, see why they are bottom Onwards and upwards smirg kcab
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10:05pm Sat 6 Oct 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Steve how wrong was I? Hadn't come to this thread. Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position?

I'll stop there. I should no better but it NEVER ceases to amaze me.
Steve how wrong was I? Hadn't come to this thread. Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. I should no better but it NEVER ceases to amaze me. dreamofacleansheet2
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10:13pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Oi Den! says...

Grim, I always believed our "F Troop" - Foderingham, Flint and Ferry - would be the foundation on which we'd build a successful season. Maybe PDC has had good reason to doubt them at times, but I hope they've all now done enough to convince him.
Grim, I always believed our "F Troop" - Foderingham, Flint and Ferry - would be the foundation on which we'd build a successful season. Maybe PDC has had good reason to doubt them at times, but I hope they've all now done enough to convince him. Oi Den!
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10:38pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Steve. Brentford says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Steve how wrong was I? Hadn't come to this thread. Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position?

I'll stop there. I should no better but it NEVER ceases to amaze me.
Fact, vultures can see a 1 metre carcass from 4 miles away.Anyone ;o)
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Steve how wrong was I? Hadn't come to this thread. Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. I should no better but it NEVER ceases to amaze me.[/p][/quote]Fact, vultures can see a 1 metre carcass from 4 miles away.Anyone ;o) Steve. Brentford
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10:50pm Sat 6 Oct 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Brilliant, fact Wilderbeast cross the Mara river running gauntlet of current and crocs then cross back again purely because they are in a herd. Then if they've survived they have to go again. Anyone?!
Brilliant, fact Wilderbeast cross the Mara river running gauntlet of current and crocs then cross back again purely because they are in a herd. Then if they've survived they have to go again. Anyone?! dreamofacleansheet2
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11:01pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Steve. Brentford says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Brilliant, fact Wilderbeast cross the Mara river running gauntlet of current and crocs then cross back again purely because they are in a herd. Then if they've survived they have to go again. Anyone?!
Ha, but the reason the Wildebeest cross back and forth is,wait for it,anyone? OK i tell you they think the grass is greener on the other side.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, fact Wilderbeast cross the Mara river running gauntlet of current and crocs then cross back again purely because they are in a herd. Then if they've survived they have to go again. Anyone?![/p][/quote]Ha, but the reason the Wildebeest cross back and forth is,wait for it,anyone? OK i tell you they think the grass is greener on the other side. Steve. Brentford
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12:10am Sun 7 Oct 12

mancrobin says...

mikek wrote:
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward.

In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4?

As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock?

And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey?

In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team.

The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win.

Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result?

As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
[quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust. mancrobin
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12:49am Sun 7 Oct 12

the wizard says...

mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote:
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward.

In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4?

As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock?

And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey?

In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team.

The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win.

Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result?

As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations

As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential.

My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc.

This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results.
Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit. the wizard
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12:56am Sun 7 Oct 12

mancrobin says...

the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote:
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward.

In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4?

As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock?

And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey?

In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team.

The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win.

Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result?

As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations

As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential.

My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc.

This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results.
Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard. mancrobin
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3:10am Sun 7 Oct 12

joey butler says...

mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote:
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward.

In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4?

As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock?

And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey?

In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team.

The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win.

Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result?

As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations

As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential.

My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc.

This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results.
Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here.

We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening.

I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill.

PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!! joey butler
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4:41am Sun 7 Oct 12

red white says...

Paolo is a Cancer,star sign,he hides some time in his shell,but comes out and attacks with claws,deadly!

He loves us,we love him and we're goin up!
Paolo is a Cancer,star sign,he hides some time in his shell,but comes out and attacks with claws,deadly! He loves us,we love him and we're goin up! red white
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7:30am Sun 7 Oct 12

Chish and Fips says...

joey butler wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote:
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward.

In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4?

As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock?

And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey?

In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team.

The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win.

Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result?

As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations

As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential.

My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc.

This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results.
Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here.

We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening.

I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill.

PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings.

Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one.

Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!![/p][/quote]JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this . Chish and Fips
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9:14am Sun 7 Oct 12

the don69 says...

J-Wray has been superb and backed Paolo to the hilt!so what that we're just over budget,because of the tribunal saying we have to pay up front cash!get your head down and get on with it Paolo!you have a large budget to work with(more than most in div1)and a big squad,so now manage that squad and get on with it!J-Wray is the man,he will sort it,best Chairman we've had for a very long time!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J-Wray has been superb and backed Paolo to the hilt!so what that we're just over budget,because of the tribunal saying we have to pay up front cash!get your head down and get on with it Paolo!you have a large budget to work with(more than most in div1)and a big squad,so now manage that squad and get on with it!J-Wray is the man,he will sort it,best Chairman we've had for a very long time!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
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9:34am Sun 7 Oct 12

Malkym says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
joey butler wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .
C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper.

JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight.

Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up.

More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!![/p][/quote]JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .[/p][/quote]C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:) Malkym
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9:40am Sun 7 Oct 12

Malkym says...

PS Should have included "That's not to say I think PdC gets it right all the time every time but hey for goodness sake who would we want in his place because I can't think of any one who comes close that's realistically available."
PS Should have included "That's not to say I think PdC gets it right all the time every time but hey for goodness sake who would we want in his place because I can't think of any one who comes close that's realistically available." Malkym
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9:54am Sun 7 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote:
Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward.

In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4?

As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock?

And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey?

In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team.

The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win.

Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result?

As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations

As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential.

My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc.

This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results.
Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
Good shout Wiz!
---.
Contrary to some beliefs I'm not a PDC worshipper but do give 100% support to any of our managers and have enjoyed the PDC roller coaster ride to date.
---.
One thing that is clear to everyone is that PDC demands total effort and dedication and a second is that he blows hot and cold in quick succession.
---.
I think that the time HAS come for him to demonstrate a loyalty to the squad of players he has and to see what he can do with the players at his disposal:
- Why did he have to play an injured Williams given other choices at his disposal?....not knocking him but what are the reasons....is Benson still injured but worse?...what about young blood?
- He played Bessone 'yet again' but this time in a left midfield role (from what I can work out)....is de Vita injured?
- Given Jay's better passing and known ability for crossing why not swap them round?
---.
I'm no manager but would love to know more about these choices after the event as they are surprising in many events....He's still got us promotion a Wembley Final and currently in 4th and in the play-off places in league 1...not bad in his short career...now it is time for him to grow as Wiz says. His target was top 6 by end of October and no reason why we shouldn't still be there so goal achieved.
---.
Unfortunately for him we've played the two bottom teams just after new managers have arrived and have another is in place for next Saturday v Coventry so never easy but what was worrying was the team's performance. Is it burn out (I doubt it), are there TOO many things to think about going onto the pitch?...
---.
I hate the blind attacks on PDC and the team but really enjoy reading people's views negative or positive when they're supported by a bit of thought and consideration.
---.
A first question for anyone who went and who cares to answer:
How DID Bessone get on in his advanced midfield role yesterday?..was he better than de Vita (is he injured?)
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]Good shout Wiz! ---. Contrary to some beliefs I'm not a PDC worshipper but do give 100% support to any of our managers and have enjoyed the PDC roller coaster ride to date. ---. One thing that is clear to everyone is that PDC demands total effort and dedication and a second is that he blows hot and cold in quick succession. ---. I think that the time HAS come for him to demonstrate a loyalty to the squad of players he has and to see what he can do with the players at his disposal: - Why did he have to play an injured Williams given other choices at his disposal?....not knocking him but what are the reasons....is Benson still injured but worse?...what about young blood? - He played Bessone 'yet again' but this time in a left midfield role (from what I can work out)....is de Vita injured? - Given Jay's better passing and known ability for crossing why not swap them round? ---. I'm no manager but would love to know more about these choices after the event as they are surprising in many events....He's still got us promotion a Wembley Final and currently in 4th and in the play-off places in league 1...not bad in his short career...now it is time for him to grow as Wiz says. His target was top 6 by end of October and no reason why we shouldn't still be there so goal achieved. ---. Unfortunately for him we've played the two bottom teams just after new managers have arrived and have another is in place for next Saturday v Coventry so never easy but what was worrying was the team's performance. Is it burn out (I doubt it), are there TOO many things to think about going onto the pitch?... ---. I hate the blind attacks on PDC and the team but really enjoy reading people's views negative or positive when they're supported by a bit of thought and consideration. ---. A first question for anyone who went and who cares to answer: How DID Bessone get on in his advanced midfield role yesterday?..was he better than de Vita (is he injured?) SAPFanSTFC
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10:16am Sun 7 Oct 12

Chish and Fips says...

Malkym wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
joey butler wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .
C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper.

JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight.

Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up.

More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)
Malkym - JB is his own worst enemy in my opinion - 'give him a break !' ----- wish he'd given me/us a break with his accusations, silly as it was it really got on my wick and was totally childish and unnecessary.

He loves to wind up people then disappear till the dust settles.

Rant over - carry on.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!![/p][/quote]JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .[/p][/quote]C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)[/p][/quote]Malkym - JB is his own worst enemy in my opinion - 'give him a break !' ----- wish he'd given me/us a break with his accusations, silly as it was it really got on my wick and was totally childish and unnecessary. He loves to wind up people then disappear till the dust settles. Rant over - carry on. Chish and Fips
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10:26am Sun 7 Oct 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Steve how wrong was I? Hadn't come to this thread. Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. I should no better but it NEVER ceases to amaze me.
Fact, vultures can see a 1 metre carcass from 4 miles away.Anyone ;o)
FACT...
YOU can SNIF AND SEE a pint of STRONGBOW be4 anyone else !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Steve how wrong was I? Hadn't come to this thread. Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. I should no better but it NEVER ceases to amaze me.[/p][/quote]Fact, vultures can see a 1 metre carcass from 4 miles away.Anyone ;o)[/p][/quote]FACT... YOU can SNIF AND SEE a pint of STRONGBOW be4 anyone else !!!!! DarrenSTFCRomain
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10:32am Sun 7 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Ok lets put things in order. Yes I support the manager, but NO, I refuse to be blindly led like some. Call it age related, being long in the tooth, or maybe being caught out before, and then the important bit comes, after the likes of Canioman leave, we are normally left in the lurch with little or no money to spend. I am very conscious of the "after effect ripple".
Canioman has undoubtedly done very well, BUT, to a point on the end of a cheque book. Said cheque book is suspended right now and the first thing he says is, I'm off. Maybe.
yet the last two teams we have played have just appointed new managers and yet they have been able on limited funds and very little time to do well against us. Time for Canioman, to shut up and prove to us via his coaching skills that he can develop what we have, and turn this new .... ish team into promotion material. Good managers do well on limited resources as opposed to those who "buy in" success. As goes the accounts, as I stated yesterday, with the accounting system we have in place I am totally confident that the situation will be quickly resolved, by the board.
Time for Canioman to develop and prove the point, League One is proving a bit harder than he thought methinks. If he is half the man he says he is, we should turn the corner around Christmas/New Year. I'm not panicking, far from it, there is still plenty of time left in this season.
Final thought, if funds are going to be tight for a while, is there enough in the pot to buy Bostock should we decide to take him on ? Maybe LR can answer that one.
Ok lets put things in order. Yes I support the manager, but NO, I refuse to be blindly led like some. Call it age related, being long in the tooth, or maybe being caught out before, and then the important bit comes, after the likes of Canioman leave, we are normally left in the lurch with little or no money to spend. I am very conscious of the "after effect ripple". Canioman has undoubtedly done very well, BUT, to a point on the end of a cheque book. Said cheque book is suspended right now and the first thing he says is, I'm off. Maybe. yet the last two teams we have played have just appointed new managers and yet they have been able on limited funds and very little time to do well against us. Time for Canioman, to shut up and prove to us via his coaching skills that he can develop what we have, and turn this new .... ish team into promotion material. Good managers do well on limited resources as opposed to those who "buy in" success. As goes the accounts, as I stated yesterday, with the accounting system we have in place I am totally confident that the situation will be quickly resolved, by the board. Time for Canioman to develop and prove the point, League One is proving a bit harder than he thought methinks. If he is half the man he says he is, we should turn the corner around Christmas/New Year. I'm not panicking, far from it, there is still plenty of time left in this season. Final thought, if funds are going to be tight for a while, is there enough in the pot to buy Bostock should we decide to take him on ? Maybe LR can answer that one. the wizard
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10:55am Sun 7 Oct 12

Malkym says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
joey butler wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .
C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)
Malkym - JB is his own worst enemy in my opinion - 'give him a break !' ----- wish he'd given me/us a break with his accusations, silly as it was it really got on my wick and was totally childish and unnecessary. He loves to wind up people then disappear till the dust settles. Rant over - carry on.
Chish I agree JB can be tiresome with "his accusations" and I've told him so more than once but IMO when he stays off that track he soes sometimes convey a good argument but I appreciate that you've been "a target" so to speak. I've taken stick on here -some perhaps deserved, what's that about don't dish it if you can't take it, but some definitely not and not always from trolls like top secret but from some so called respected posters.

Back to topic -this a.m's posts sum things up well I think - we mostly all agree that the sun doesn't universally shine out of PdC's arse but there isn't anyone else we'd rather have as Top Gun is there?
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!![/p][/quote]JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .[/p][/quote]C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)[/p][/quote]Malkym - JB is his own worst enemy in my opinion - 'give him a break !' ----- wish he'd given me/us a break with his accusations, silly as it was it really got on my wick and was totally childish and unnecessary. He loves to wind up people then disappear till the dust settles. Rant over - carry on.[/p][/quote]Chish I agree JB can be tiresome with "his accusations" and I've told him so more than once but IMO when he stays off that track he soes sometimes convey a good argument but I appreciate that you've been "a target" so to speak. I've taken stick on here -some perhaps deserved, what's that about don't dish it if you can't take it, but some definitely not and not always from trolls like top secret but from some so called respected posters. Back to topic -this a.m's posts sum things up well I think - we mostly all agree that the sun doesn't universally shine out of PdC's arse but there isn't anyone else we'd rather have as Top Gun is there? Malkym
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11:10am Sun 7 Oct 12

smirg kcab says...

Agree with manc
As ferry and flint were awesome, motm
Was mcevely made some great tackles and blocks, bury on had two decent players the number 11 and the little sub.
All in all a million times better than colchester still room for improvement a fantastic goal and a fantastic day.
Not looking forward to a long journey back from Leeds.
Onwards and upwards
Agree with manc As ferry and flint were awesome, motm Was mcevely made some great tackles and blocks, bury on had two decent players the number 11 and the little sub. All in all a million times better than colchester still room for improvement a fantastic goal and a fantastic day. Not looking forward to a long journey back from Leeds. Onwards and upwards smirg kcab
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11:26am Sun 7 Oct 12

the wizard says...

Malkym,

Final point to clear up, I don't see "bad" in Canioman, but perhaps if he were let us say, less reactionary, to incidents like this blip on the accounts, it would help his cause. To say what he did about being sacked is I thought quite immature for somebody of his standing. I still think Wray needs to have, that conversation, with him.
Malkym, Final point to clear up, I don't see "bad" in Canioman, but perhaps if he were let us say, less reactionary, to incidents like this blip on the accounts, it would help his cause. To say what he did about being sacked is I thought quite immature for somebody of his standing. I still think Wray needs to have, that conversation, with him. the wizard
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11:41am Sun 7 Oct 12

red white says...

J Wray will sort it out,whatever happens.

Fact.

Yooooouuu Reds!
J Wray will sort it out,whatever happens. Fact. Yooooouuu Reds! red white
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1:04pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Malkym says...

the wizard wrote:
Malkym, Final point to clear up, I don't see "bad" in Canioman, but perhaps if he were let us say, less reactionary, to incidents like this blip on the accounts, it would help his cause. To say what he did about being sacked is I thought quite immature for somebody of his standing. I still think Wray needs to have, that conversation, with him.
Sorry Wiz but we'll have to agree to disagree - my take is just let him get on with it -I just think folks are making mountains out of molehills and his sacked comment should be taken,as I believe it was meant, as somewhat tongue in cheek - a bit like last season when he threatened to walk. If at the end of the season he has not delivered and has proven to have F88ked up then fair enough but until then give him the benefit of the doubt -for goodness sake we're pro-rata in a much better position than at this time last year.


Knowing Paolo and given his fiery latin temperament that has existed since his playing days I doubt he will take a blind bit of notice of calls to become more restrained and JW has said before that with PdC it's WYSIWYG and I don't doubt that JW will have a word in his shell-like, like he has done before no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Malkym, Final point to clear up, I don't see "bad" in Canioman, but perhaps if he were let us say, less reactionary, to incidents like this blip on the accounts, it would help his cause. To say what he did about being sacked is I thought quite immature for somebody of his standing. I still think Wray needs to have, that conversation, with him.[/p][/quote]Sorry Wiz but we'll have to agree to disagree - my take is just let him get on with it -I just think folks are making mountains out of molehills and his sacked comment should be taken,as I believe it was meant, as somewhat tongue in cheek - a bit like last season when he threatened to walk. If at the end of the season he has not delivered and has proven to have F88ked up then fair enough but until then give him the benefit of the doubt -for goodness sake we're pro-rata in a much better position than at this time last year. Knowing Paolo and given his fiery latin temperament that has existed since his playing days I doubt he will take a blind bit of notice of calls to become more restrained and JW has said before that with PdC it's WYSIWYG and I don't doubt that JW will have a word in his shell-like, like he has done before no doubt. Malkym
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1:37pm Sun 7 Oct 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

the wizard wrote:
Ok lets put things in order. Yes I support the manager, but NO, I refuse to be blindly led like some. Call it age related, being long in the tooth, or maybe being caught out before, and then the important bit comes, after the likes of Canioman leave, we are normally left in the lurch with little or no money to spend. I am very conscious of the "after effect ripple". Canioman has undoubtedly done very well, BUT, to a point on the end of a cheque book. Said cheque book is suspended right now and the first thing he says is, I'm off. Maybe. yet the last two teams we have played have just appointed new managers and yet they have been able on limited funds and very little time to do well against us. Time for Canioman, to shut up and prove to us via his coaching skills that he can develop what we have, and turn this new .... ish team into promotion material. Good managers do well on limited resources as opposed to those who "buy in" success. As goes the accounts, as I stated yesterday, with the accounting system we have in place I am totally confident that the situation will be quickly resolved, by the board. Time for Canioman to develop and prove the point, League One is proving a bit harder than he thought methinks. If he is half the man he says he is, we should turn the corner around Christmas/New Year. I'm not panicking, far from it, there is still plenty of time left in this season. Final thought, if funds are going to be tight for a while, is there enough in the pot to buy Bostock should we decide to take him on ? Maybe LR can answer that one.
SPOT ON Wiz..
In a way im very glad Paolo cant spend any more and why should he ???..
I think he has signed around 20 players or something like that,and most of them had to be payed off
(AND THAT IS WERE A VERY LARGE PART OF THE BUDGET HAS GONE)..

Yes we all love the PDC circus and it has been good for STFC BUT a club like ares has to watch there step very very closely..

And if Paolo cant manage with the players that he has bought in all ready this season The question should be is he good enough to be a football manager..
STOP MOANING AND CONSONTRATE ON YA JOB PAOLO
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Ok lets put things in order. Yes I support the manager, but NO, I refuse to be blindly led like some. Call it age related, being long in the tooth, or maybe being caught out before, and then the important bit comes, after the likes of Canioman leave, we are normally left in the lurch with little or no money to spend. I am very conscious of the "after effect ripple". Canioman has undoubtedly done very well, BUT, to a point on the end of a cheque book. Said cheque book is suspended right now and the first thing he says is, I'm off. Maybe. yet the last two teams we have played have just appointed new managers and yet they have been able on limited funds and very little time to do well against us. Time for Canioman, to shut up and prove to us via his coaching skills that he can develop what we have, and turn this new .... ish team into promotion material. Good managers do well on limited resources as opposed to those who "buy in" success. As goes the accounts, as I stated yesterday, with the accounting system we have in place I am totally confident that the situation will be quickly resolved, by the board. Time for Canioman to develop and prove the point, League One is proving a bit harder than he thought methinks. If he is half the man he says he is, we should turn the corner around Christmas/New Year. I'm not panicking, far from it, there is still plenty of time left in this season. Final thought, if funds are going to be tight for a while, is there enough in the pot to buy Bostock should we decide to take him on ? Maybe LR can answer that one.[/p][/quote]SPOT ON Wiz.. In a way im very glad Paolo cant spend any more and why should he ???.. I think he has signed around 20 players or something like that,and most of them had to be payed off (AND THAT IS WERE A VERY LARGE PART OF THE BUDGET HAS GONE).. Yes we all love the PDC circus and it has been good for STFC BUT a club like ares has to watch there step very very closely.. And if Paolo cant manage with the players that he has bought in all ready this season The question should be is he good enough to be a football manager.. STOP MOANING AND CONSONTRATE ON YA JOB PAOLO DarrenSTFCRomain
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3:27pm Sun 7 Oct 12

London Red says...

I'm only going to say a few points on above
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Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!
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That looks like nurturing to me
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Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year
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Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey
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Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year????
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Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths?
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PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment
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Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer!
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Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well
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Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!
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Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell!
.
Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis!
I'm only going to say a few points on above . Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011! . That looks like nurturing to me . Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year . Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey . Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year???? . Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths? . PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment . Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer! . Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well . Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd! . Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell! . Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis! London Red
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4:17pm Sun 7 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

London Red wrote:
I'm only going to say a few points on above
.
Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!
.
That looks like nurturing to me
.
Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year
.
Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey
.
Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year????
.
Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths?
.
PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment
.
Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer!
.
Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well
.
Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!
.
Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell!
.
Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis!
I'm going to play Devil's advocate here & believe in most of it.
===.
Your Comment:.
Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!....That looks like nurturing to me...
---.
Comment:.
Development isn't just the continued progression of senior players so 'Nurturing' of players like Ritchie & Caddis...I hope you and I both 'nurture our teams better than that!?
You also have to put some of that down to the payers drive and their own drive and determination - I'm happy to see these players progressing but is that ALL down to PDC?...Thompson has shown the flavour required but I still feel that PDC has to 'BE SEEN' to be nurturing the talent....as I'm sure he is doing.
---.
I worry that the doubters/bashers will 'quite rightly' tag onto the fact that he is only ever seen to be hiring and firing.
===.
Your Comment:
Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year.
---.
I'm not sure ANYONE on here is not aware of his target.
===.
Your Comment:
Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey
.
Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year????
---.
On his own NO!...but neither can Ferry or Ritchie or Williams or Fodders!!
...BUT!!!...he can help and be part of the squad and by playing now and then he will improve (hopefully) and give the others a rest....plus keep other teams guessing.
---.
Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths?
---.
So you're saying we can't develop players AND get promoted!?
===.
Your comment:
PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment.
So given your privilaged position as a shareholder are you telling us that the board want promotion at ANY COST this season!?..we all know the pressure from the impending implementation of the two-tier Premiership option but I think you are missing an element of normal life here.
===.
Your Comment:
Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer!
.
Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well
---.
TOTALLY AGREE!...but we need to play some added extras - if they are not given a chance then how will you ever know?
===.
Your Comment.
Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!...position isn't everything!?...they have produced two AWFUL performances across the WHOLE team....you don't win anything playing like that and PDC is right to moan on that score....but WHY did all eleven players struggle?
===.
Your Comment:
Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell!
.
Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis!
---.
Totally Agree - We got caught out here but equally we have to have a contingency in the budget?...Do you NOT have contingency in any of your budgets for staff, revenues, costs, etc.?
---.
I REALLY think I am right in the middle here as I have full faith in the club, Wray and PDC.....BUT!!!....I also want to see flexibility in any manager's role and whilst he's had 100% support up until now...and WILL continue to have it - we do need to ensure that we keep our eyes focused on ONE thing!!
---.
For me it is that my two young sons and young daughter will have a club to follow in thirty years time....and do you know what....I DON'T CARE what division they're playing in!!
---.
I'm going to get them down to RWB soon and we'll support them as well wherever possible....it is about local communities, local clubs and local people!!....Don't forget that please Mr LR whilst stuck in the smoke.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I'm only going to say a few points on above . Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011! . That looks like nurturing to me . Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year . Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey . Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year???? . Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths? . PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment . Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer! . Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well . Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd! . Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell! . Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis![/p][/quote]I'm going to play Devil's advocate here & believe in most of it. ===. Your Comment:. Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!....That looks like nurturing to me... ---. Comment:. Development isn't just the continued progression of senior players so 'Nurturing' of players like Ritchie & Caddis...I hope you and I both 'nurture our teams better than that!? You also have to put some of that down to the payers drive and their own drive and determination - I'm happy to see these players progressing but is that ALL down to PDC?...Thompson has shown the flavour required but I still feel that PDC has to 'BE SEEN' to be nurturing the talent....as I'm sure he is doing. ---. I worry that the doubters/bashers will 'quite rightly' tag onto the fact that he is only ever seen to be hiring and firing. ===. Your Comment: Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year. ---. I'm not sure ANYONE on here is not aware of his target. ===. Your Comment: Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey . Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year???? ---. On his own NO!...but neither can Ferry or Ritchie or Williams or Fodders!! ...BUT!!!...he can help and be part of the squad and by playing now and then he will improve (hopefully) and give the others a rest....plus keep other teams guessing. ---. Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths? ---. So you're saying we can't develop players AND get promoted!? ===. Your comment: PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment. So given your privilaged position as a shareholder are you telling us that the board want promotion at ANY COST this season!?..we all know the pressure from the impending implementation of the two-tier Premiership option but I think you are missing an element of normal life here. ===. Your Comment: Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer! . Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well ---. TOTALLY AGREE!...but we need to play some added extras - if they are not given a chance then how will you ever know? ===. Your Comment. Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!...position isn't everything!?...they have produced two AWFUL performances across the WHOLE team....you don't win anything playing like that and PDC is right to moan on that score....but WHY did all eleven players struggle? ===. Your Comment: Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell! . Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis! ---. Totally Agree - We got caught out here but equally we have to have a contingency in the budget?...Do you NOT have contingency in any of your budgets for staff, revenues, costs, etc.? ---. I REALLY think I am right in the middle here as I have full faith in the club, Wray and PDC.....BUT!!!....I also want to see flexibility in any manager's role and whilst he's had 100% support up until now...and WILL continue to have it - we do need to ensure that we keep our eyes focused on ONE thing!! ---. For me it is that my two young sons and young daughter will have a club to follow in thirty years time....and do you know what....I DON'T CARE what division they're playing in!! ---. I'm going to get them down to RWB soon and we'll support them as well wherever possible....it is about local communities, local clubs and local people!!....Don't forget that please Mr LR whilst stuck in the smoke. SAPFanSTFC
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4:18pm Sun 7 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

....and yes I had half an hour to kill so too much time on my hands :-)
....and yes I had half an hour to kill so too much time on my hands :-) SAPFanSTFC
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5:09pm Sun 7 Oct 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Last night I posted:

Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position?

I'll stop there.

Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo.

Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad.

I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do.

On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it!
Last night I posted: Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo. Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad. I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do. On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it! dreamofacleansheet2
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6:19pm Sun 7 Oct 12

TelSTFC says...

We have a squad of 26 players and yes we will get injuries.

Macari proved what a great manager he was on no budget at all.

Paolo has done great and we all love his enthusiam and we are in a superb position at the moment 4th.
To be honest i think asking for more money at present to make more loan signings isn't good for the club as a whole.

The board have to draw a line somewhere to be fair.

I hope Paolo can work with the players we have Bostock hasn't hardly featured yet,Rooney could be re-called back it could be his chance to prove his worth.

Lets hope Paolo can work with this squad as alot of Managers would love what he has at his disposal.

Im looking forward to the Coventry game should be a decent crowd as they should bring 2000.

In Paolo we trust onwards & upwards with the squad we have when the going gets tough the tough get going!
We have a squad of 26 players and yes we will get injuries. Macari proved what a great manager he was on no budget at all. Paolo has done great and we all love his enthusiam and we are in a superb position at the moment 4th. To be honest i think asking for more money at present to make more loan signings isn't good for the club as a whole. The board have to draw a line somewhere to be fair. I hope Paolo can work with the players we have Bostock hasn't hardly featured yet,Rooney could be re-called back it could be his chance to prove his worth. Lets hope Paolo can work with this squad as alot of Managers would love what he has at his disposal. Im looking forward to the Coventry game should be a decent crowd as they should bring 2000. In Paolo we trust onwards & upwards with the squad we have when the going gets tough the tough get going! TelSTFC
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6:39pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Okus Road says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Last night I posted:

Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position?

I'll stop there.

Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo.

Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad.

I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do.

On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it!
like your post Dream

The biggest disappointment of this season is the lack of support from the people of Swindon, I was born in Old Town but now live in North Oxfordshire and travel a good number of miles watching the Town for the home games as a season ticket holder.
I see the the hated (by some Town fans) MK Dons are getting crowds of over 10k. Why can't get that number every game? Are the club doing enough? C'mon Swindon people get down to the CG.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Last night I posted: Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo. Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad. I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do. On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it![/p][/quote]like your post Dream The biggest disappointment of this season is the lack of support from the people of Swindon, I was born in Old Town but now live in North Oxfordshire and travel a good number of miles watching the Town for the home games as a season ticket holder. I see the the hated (by some Town fans) MK Dons are getting crowds of over 10k. Why can't get that number every game? Are the club doing enough? C'mon Swindon people get down to the CG. Okus Road
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7:11pm Sun 7 Oct 12

TelSTFC says...

Okus Road wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Last night I posted: Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo. Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad. I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do. On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it!
like your post Dream The biggest disappointment of this season is the lack of support from the people of Swindon, I was born in Old Town but now live in North Oxfordshire and travel a good number of miles watching the Town for the home games as a season ticket holder. I see the the hated (by some Town fans) MK Dons are getting crowds of over 10k. Why can't get that number every game? Are the club doing enough? C'mon Swindon people get down to the CG.
Okus Road good comments about the crowd we should get more but £25 on the day is a tad expensive for alot of people.

I travel up from Porstsmouth where i live as i was born in Stratton.

Lets hope the crowds improve but i think the deals that the club are doing £15 tickets etc need to be marketed alot more to entice the public in.
[quote][p][bold]Okus Road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Last night I posted: Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo. Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad. I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do. On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it![/p][/quote]like your post Dream The biggest disappointment of this season is the lack of support from the people of Swindon, I was born in Old Town but now live in North Oxfordshire and travel a good number of miles watching the Town for the home games as a season ticket holder. I see the the hated (by some Town fans) MK Dons are getting crowds of over 10k. Why can't get that number every game? Are the club doing enough? C'mon Swindon people get down to the CG.[/p][/quote]Okus Road good comments about the crowd we should get more but £25 on the day is a tad expensive for alot of people. I travel up from Porstsmouth where i live as i was born in Stratton. Lets hope the crowds improve but i think the deals that the club are doing £15 tickets etc need to be marketed alot more to entice the public in. TelSTFC
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7:24pm Sun 7 Oct 12

red white says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
London Red wrote:
I'm only going to say a few points on above
.
Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!
.
That looks like nurturing to me
.
Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year
.
Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey
.
Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year????
.
Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths?
.
PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment
.
Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer!
.
Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well
.
Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!
.
Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell!
.
Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis!
I'm going to play Devil's advocate here & believe in most of it.
===.
Your Comment:.
Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!....That looks like nurturing to me...
---.
Comment:.
Development isn't just the continued progression of senior players so 'Nurturing' of players like Ritchie & Caddis...I hope you and I both 'nurture our teams better than that!?
You also have to put some of that down to the payers drive and their own drive and determination - I'm happy to see these players progressing but is that ALL down to PDC?...Thompson has shown the flavour required but I still feel that PDC has to 'BE SEEN' to be nurturing the talent....as I'm sure he is doing.
---.
I worry that the doubters/bashers will 'quite rightly' tag onto the fact that he is only ever seen to be hiring and firing.
===.
Your Comment:
Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year.
---.
I'm not sure ANYONE on here is not aware of his target.
===.
Your Comment:
Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey
.
Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year????
---.
On his own NO!...but neither can Ferry or Ritchie or Williams or Fodders!!
...BUT!!!...he can help and be part of the squad and by playing now and then he will improve (hopefully) and give the others a rest....plus keep other teams guessing.
---.
Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths?
---.
So you're saying we can't develop players AND get promoted!?
===.
Your comment:
PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment.
So given your privilaged position as a shareholder are you telling us that the board want promotion at ANY COST this season!?..we all know the pressure from the impending implementation of the two-tier Premiership option but I think you are missing an element of normal life here.
===.
Your Comment:
Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer!
.
Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well
---.
TOTALLY AGREE!...but we need to play some added extras - if they are not given a chance then how will you ever know?
===.
Your Comment.
Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!...position isn't everything!?...they have produced two AWFUL performances across the WHOLE team....you don't win anything playing like that and PDC is right to moan on that score....but WHY did all eleven players struggle?
===.
Your Comment:
Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell!
.
Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis!
---.
Totally Agree - We got caught out here but equally we have to have a contingency in the budget?...Do you NOT have contingency in any of your budgets for staff, revenues, costs, etc.?
---.
I REALLY think I am right in the middle here as I have full faith in the club, Wray and PDC.....BUT!!!....I also want to see flexibility in any manager's role and whilst he's had 100% support up until now...and WILL continue to have it - we do need to ensure that we keep our eyes focused on ONE thing!!
---.
For me it is that my two young sons and young daughter will have a club to follow in thirty years time....and do you know what....I DON'T CARE what division they're playing in!!
---.
I'm going to get them down to RWB soon and we'll support them as well wherever possible....it is about local communities, local clubs and local people!!....Don't forget that please Mr LR whilst stuck in the smoke.
You do care and we will be in the Prem before long,Paolo has ordered that!
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I'm only going to say a few points on above . Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011! . That looks like nurturing to me . Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year . Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey . Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year???? . Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths? . PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment . Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer! . Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well . Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd! . Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell! . Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis![/p][/quote]I'm going to play Devil's advocate here & believe in most of it. ===. Your Comment:. Non- Development: with Dreams here we have seen a lot of players improve under him - Ritchie and Caddis for example were far and away better players come May 2012 than they were in May 2011!....That looks like nurturing to me... ---. Comment:. Development isn't just the continued progression of senior players so 'Nurturing' of players like Ritchie & Caddis...I hope you and I both 'nurture our teams better than that!? You also have to put some of that down to the payers drive and their own drive and determination - I'm happy to see these players progressing but is that ALL down to PDC?...Thompson has shown the flavour required but I still feel that PDC has to 'BE SEEN' to be nurturing the talent....as I'm sure he is doing. ---. I worry that the doubters/bashers will 'quite rightly' tag onto the fact that he is only ever seen to be hiring and firing. ===. Your Comment: Also some seem to forget he has a target of promotion this year. ---. I'm not sure ANYONE on here is not aware of his target. ===. Your Comment: Someone called for him to stop moaning and use players like Storey . Do you honestly think Storey can fire us to the Championship this year???? ---. On his own NO!...but neither can Ferry or Ritchie or Williams or Fodders!! ...BUT!!!...he can help and be part of the squad and by playing now and then he will improve (hopefully) and give the others a rest....plus keep other teams guessing. ---. Can't have it both ways - Do we want to go up or develop our youths? ---. So you're saying we can't develop players AND get promoted!? ===. Your comment: PdC and the board want promotion - so are obviously more short term thinking at the moment. So given your privilaged position as a shareholder are you telling us that the board want promotion at ANY COST this season!?..we all know the pressure from the impending implementation of the two-tier Premiership option but I think you are missing an element of normal life here. ===. Your Comment: Others have also said he has found L1 tougher than expected - yet ignore the fact he has half his first team out injured for most the season - any team missing players like Macca, Roberts and Williams like we did yesterday is going to suffer! . Not too mention we have had Thompson Troy McEveley Navarro Ritchie Collins and Benson out at times as well ---. TOTALLY AGREE!...but we need to play some added extras - if they are not given a chance then how will you ever know? ===. Your Comment. Anyway thought we were 4th and in touching distance of 2nd!...position isn't everything!?...they have produced two AWFUL performances across the WHOLE team....you don't win anything playing like that and PDC is right to moan on that score....but WHY did all eleven players struggle? ===. Your Comment: Finally Wiz - JW answered your question - if it was Jan or still Aug we would simply sell! . Before it is said NOT RITCHIE - but the likes of Caddis, Risser or other fringe players like Rooney - sounds like as little as £175k would tke us under - shoul get more than that for Caddis! ---. Totally Agree - We got caught out here but equally we have to have a contingency in the budget?...Do you NOT have contingency in any of your budgets for staff, revenues, costs, etc.? ---. I REALLY think I am right in the middle here as I have full faith in the club, Wray and PDC.....BUT!!!....I also want to see flexibility in any manager's role and whilst he's had 100% support up until now...and WILL continue to have it - we do need to ensure that we keep our eyes focused on ONE thing!! ---. For me it is that my two young sons and young daughter will have a club to follow in thirty years time....and do you know what....I DON'T CARE what division they're playing in!! ---. I'm going to get them down to RWB soon and we'll support them as well wherever possible....it is about local communities, local clubs and local people!!....Don't forget that please Mr LR whilst stuck in the smoke.[/p][/quote]You do care and we will be in the Prem before long,Paolo has ordered that! red white
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8:21pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Okus Road says...

TelSTFC wrote:
Okus Road wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Last night I posted: Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo. Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad. I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do. On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it!
like your post Dream The biggest disappointment of this season is the lack of support from the people of Swindon, I was born in Old Town but now live in North Oxfordshire and travel a good number of miles watching the Town for the home games as a season ticket holder. I see the the hated (by some Town fans) MK Dons are getting crowds of over 10k. Why can't get that number every game? Are the club doing enough? C'mon Swindon people get down to the CG.
Okus Road good comments about the crowd we should get more but £25 on the day is a tad expensive for alot of people.

I travel up from Porstsmouth where i live as i was born in Stratton.

Lets hope the crowds improve but i think the deals that the club are doing £15 tickets etc need to be marketed alot more to entice the public in.
It seems from the regular users on this forum that a high % of fans live outside of the Town, Banbury, Chipping Norton, Witney yourself from Portsmouth to name a few.
Love what the board are doing in running the club and I am sure we will go far (Championship next season) but from someone living outside of Swindon it looks to me they need to do much more in promoting the club. Get into every sports club, school, retail outlet and flood them with STFC information, pictures, promotions etc so that wherever the people of Swindon are they will see the football club and hopefully want to come and support them.
[quote][p][bold]TelSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Okus Road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Last night I posted: Paolo doesn't develop players...... Nathan not developed, Jay not developed and saying how much he likes working under him? Wes not developed, Macca not developed by moving into a new position? I'll stop there. Time to keep going. Ritchie is a better player since he arrived, DeVita is a better player, Collins came here because he wanted to be developed by Paolo. Yes he has been backed brilliantly by J Wray and the board but he has put an excellent squad together and IS developing that squad. I'm not worried about him have having a temporary suspension on getting players in. I am amazed by our squad and that's why I believe we will win the league. I still believe that. I don't care if he doesn't play Bostock until he's ready, that's what he's paid to do. On another subject I have a season ticket, I bought it in phase 3 as needed to get the money together. It will not be cost effective as I won't make all the games but dear all I felt it was important to back the club with my cash even if not cost effective. I know times are hard but we all need to back the club as much as possible because they are doing a brilliant job. We are not in any danger of going bust, there's a plan, just wish people might realise it![/p][/quote]like your post Dream The biggest disappointment of this season is the lack of support from the people of Swindon, I was born in Old Town but now live in North Oxfordshire and travel a good number of miles watching the Town for the home games as a season ticket holder. I see the the hated (by some Town fans) MK Dons are getting crowds of over 10k. Why can't get that number every game? Are the club doing enough? C'mon Swindon people get down to the CG.[/p][/quote]Okus Road good comments about the crowd we should get more but £25 on the day is a tad expensive for alot of people. I travel up from Porstsmouth where i live as i was born in Stratton. Lets hope the crowds improve but i think the deals that the club are doing £15 tickets etc need to be marketed alot more to entice the public in.[/p][/quote]It seems from the regular users on this forum that a high % of fans live outside of the Town, Banbury, Chipping Norton, Witney yourself from Portsmouth to name a few. Love what the board are doing in running the club and I am sure we will go far (Championship next season) but from someone living outside of Swindon it looks to me they need to do much more in promoting the club. Get into every sports club, school, retail outlet and flood them with STFC information, pictures, promotions etc so that wherever the people of Swindon are they will see the football club and hopefully want to come and support them. Okus Road
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9:19pm Sun 7 Oct 12

joey butler says...

Malkym wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
joey butler wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .
C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper.

JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight.

Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up.

More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)
An extremely astute, accurate and very intelligent post Malky, which I thank you for.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!![/p][/quote]JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .[/p][/quote]C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)[/p][/quote]An extremely astute, accurate and very intelligent post Malky, which I thank you for. joey butler
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9:41pm Sun 7 Oct 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

I think there are lot of managers out there that could do a good job with the budget Paolo has...
And i dont think Paolo would be a good manager with out it and i also think that with out the boards money Paolo would not have come here in the first place
I think there are lot of managers out there that could do a good job with the budget Paolo has... And i dont think Paolo would be a good manager with out it and i also think that with out the boards money Paolo would not have come here in the first place DarrenSTFCRomain
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12:04am Mon 8 Oct 12

the wizard says...

I just wonder why Canioman brought up the subject and not Wray, and in so doing basically forced Wray into bringing the whole subject out into the open, away from home, when he would have perhaps been more comfortable doing this at County Ground, probably once it was all sorted.
I just wonder why Canioman brought up the subject and not Wray, and in so doing basically forced Wray into bringing the whole subject out into the open, away from home, when he would have perhaps been more comfortable doing this at County Ground, probably once it was all sorted. the wizard
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7:11am Mon 8 Oct 12

Chish and Fips says...

Malkym wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
joey butler wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
mikek wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.
Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.
Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.
Spot on Mr Wizard.
With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!!
JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .
C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)
Malkym - JB is his own worst enemy in my opinion - 'give him a break !' ----- wish he'd given me/us a break with his accusations, silly as it was it really got on my wick and was totally childish and unnecessary. He loves to wind up people then disappear till the dust settles. Rant over - carry on.
Chish I agree JB can be tiresome with "his accusations" and I've told him so more than once but IMO when he stays off that track he soes sometimes convey a good argument but I appreciate that you've been "a target" so to speak. I've taken stick on here -some perhaps deserved, what's that about don't dish it if you can't take it, but some definitely not and not always from trolls like top secret but from some so called respected posters.

Back to topic -this a.m's posts sum things up well I think - we mostly all agree that the sun doesn't universally shine out of PdC's arse but there isn't anyone else we'd rather have as Top Gun is there?
Another good summing up too Malkym... ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: Sounds like Paolo is feeling somewhat exposed without the comfort of being able to dip into the transfer market at any time so not surprised by his comments. A manager that is doing his utmost to get this club into the championship and could be on a big bonus to do this quickly then they are always going to show nerves if they loose part of the tool kit and I do feel Paolo is voicing a little bit of concern. Great result today and that is all that matters. If we had snatched a draw in the final minutes against Colchester and drew today I feel most fans would have been reasonably happy with that so 3 points is a decent return and better than two draws. Its going to be much harder finding consistency this season in this division especially with so many changes and injuries. Brilliant to see Flint back today and bet Ward and Flint looked a bit more daunting to the Bury strikeforce. Flint had a decent game also making some crucial clearances. Bring on Coventry and at least we have a free week to get some players rested.[/p][/quote]Agreed Mikek. Flint was immense today but McEverley was my man of the match he put in some brilliant tackles and blocks and looked good going forward. In fact the whole back 4 looked good today defensively even if distribution was wayward at times. Why doesn't DiCanio stick with these 4? As much as I like Ferry he spent most of the match chasing shadows. Why not play Bostock? And up front, the more I see Benson, the more I see a great pro. Just who we needed this afternoon to win the ball in the air, hold it up and take pressure off the defence. Why not play him more alongside the exciting looking Storey? In other words, why doesn't DiCanio stop moaning and use the considerable talent he already has at his disposal by picking a decent team. The last 2 games speak volumes. Wrong team selection and tactics sees a home defeat. Half decent team selection and right tactics sees an away win. Interestingly, Paolo slammed the players for Tuesday's result. Interestly, I've not heard him praise them today for this result? As someone said previously, in JWray I trust.[/p][/quote]Just logged on before turning in after a great day here. I was quite expecting "trial by trolls" tonight, but that hasn't happened, and that says something to me about how the supporters actually really do believe in the current board and set up as a whole. Credit to JayWray but also Fitton for laying down some important foundations As goes Canioman, well come on old son, its time to quit talking the talk and about time to walk the walk and train and enthuse these players. We have a great squad and in fairness Canioman put it together, add to that the "signings for the future" that the Wilson/Fitton partnership brought here with Ferry and Flint, and there is no denying we have massive potential. My own thoughts are that this could be the making of Canioman, to put the extra work in with individuals, as opposed to the team. No, I don't know what they do in training, but surely now while the economic glitch is being sorted is the time during which he can shine, and he must, by adopting a player a day for instance , one on one etc and that way developing the team. He will learn so much more about the individual, the person, the player, and what makes them tick. The result would, could, should, be spell binding especially if he spends one on one time with Roberts, Williams and Collins, as opposed to going out and bringing in more players, that firstly he has to get fit, etc, etc, etc. This is the time when he proves his worth, his standing and his philosophy, no good just talking, lets see the proof and that is measured over the longer period by results. Nurture your flock Canioman, you brought them in, you train them, you play them, they are your choice, now sit down with them, discover what is needed, and make it work, prove to us you are, The Man. THIS is what is needed. It's called spirit.[/p][/quote]Spot on Mr Wizard.[/p][/quote]With respect guys, I think a small degree of reality is required here. We beat the bottom team in our league 1-0 Saturday and lost at home {Again} to what were the second bottom team last Tuesday evening. I am delighted to see that Wizard has moved his Oxfordshire caravan to Bladon, I think that his very protracted speech above was clearly inspired by the late Winston Churchill. PDC will hardly be able to sleep this weekend, fearing that Wizard is appointed our new Manager Monday morning and that PDC becomes a driver for Aldbourne taxis at the end of his village!![/p][/quote]JB at least Wiz and few others whilst appearing negative offer suggestions and their thoughts in a positive way and in a non abusive way or trying to be clever/funny way - you just spout out off every now and again with some critical observation to wind every one up. Then also this weird obsession of multi postings. Yes it may have been the bottom of the league side but those matches can more difficult and also factor in the 'new manager' syndrome, overall, although I wasn't there, I consider the result a good one. Come on JB you know you can do better than this - you have in the past ... why now have you resorted to this .[/p][/quote]C'mon Chish give Joey a break TBH I agree with his post it's not as though we've just beaten Tranmere & Wilson's lot is it - we should have beaten Colchester, and Bury should have been dispatched more convincingly for sure -but that's football, Stoke Brighton, & Burnley should have beaten us on paper. JB did make me chuckle because Wiz like many of us does tend to vie with LR for world's longest poster championship sometimes. I'd read Wiz's latest missive before I'd read JB's and I'd thought -phew!! Grand Canyon deep or what and coupled with his thrice posted eulogy on the Bostock thread I thought I know what to read if I can't sleep tonight. Wiz my boy I reckon you've been at the single malts again because the theme I'm detecting from your recent posts-maybe wrongly - is that you're not that great a fan of PdC? You say he has to prove ...to us....etc Does he? Didn't he do that last season? Isn't he doing that so far this season allowing for inevitable blips? Do you detect a crisis because I don't. I actually think he's probably doing all the things you are advocating him to do but in his own way -and he is the manager so let's cut him some slack beause for sure the vultures will soon be out in force on here if it does go t!ts up. More than enough from me otherwise I'll be proving my own point.:)[/p][/quote]Malkym - JB is his own worst enemy in my opinion - 'give him a break !' ----- wish he'd given me/us a break with his accusations, silly as it was it really got on my wick and was totally childish and unnecessary. He loves to wind up people then disappear till the dust settles. Rant over - carry on.[/p][/quote]Chish I agree JB can be tiresome with "his accusations" and I've told him so more than once but IMO when he stays off that track he soes sometimes convey a good argument but I appreciate that you've been "a target" so to speak. I've taken stick on here -some perhaps deserved, what's that about don't dish it if you can't take it, but some definitely not and not always from trolls like top secret but from some so called respected posters. Back to topic -this a.m's posts sum things up well I think - we mostly all agree that the sun doesn't universally shine out of PdC's arse but there isn't anyone else we'd rather have as Top Gun is there?[/p][/quote]Another good summing up too Malkym... ;o) Chish and Fips
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