SWINDON TOWN: Di Canio unhappy with early postponement

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio was left frustrated by the decision to postpone Swindon Town's trip to Colchester Paolo Di Canio was left frustrated by the decision to postpone Swindon Town's trip to Colchester

PAOLO Di Canio was unhappy at the early nature of the postponement of Swindon Town’s trip to Colchester.

The Robins were due to face the Essex strugglers at the Weston Homes Community Stadium today but saw a second successive League One clash called off because of a waterlogged pitch after an inspection on Friday afternoon.

Di Canio revealed that both Town assistant manager Fabrizio Piccareta and U’s boss Joe Dunne wanted the game to go ahead after casting their eyes over the pitch, while the Colchester groundstaff were confident that - with minimal rainfall predicted in the area in the hours leading up to kick-off - the match could take place.

However, Football Association official Adam Crysell, who inspected the surface, deemed it unfit for purpose after an hour’s deliberation, leaving Di Canio hugely disappointed.

“We always want to play, especially now for the momentum and we were doing very well. Not playing at this moment, especially against a side who at this moment have big difficulty and we have to think about everything, is not fair,” he said.

“Obviously there are rules for the weather but I want to remind the people who decide that sometimes, if there is not incredible storms or maybe five or six days in a row that you there will be very heavy rain, they have to think we live in England. It is not Africa.

“It rains and maybe in the next few weeks it will snow and what will we do? Maybe in April or May when the play-off final is there they will forget we still have to play another four games and maybe we will play in the middle of June.

“No, it is not fair. Especially in the last situation we had a chance, in my opinion, also because Colchester wanted to go through and play because they were sure. The groundsman was there and he said from his point of view, thinking about the weather one day before, everything would be okay.

“The member that the association sent there decided that he knows the pitch and if it starts raining during the game it would become a bad pitch. If we decide what can happen during the game and we stop one day or two days early it’s not very good.

“If there is incredible weather for 24 hours or maybe snow we can understand but there were all the conditions to go through and maybe even wait until today and decide this morning if we had a chance to play.

“We have experience because every day we go to Liddington and there is a lot of water. Even this morning we had a practice match and everything was okay. There wasn’t water on the pitch, the ball rolled well and bounced.

“How many times have we watched English football and at the end the pitch wasn’t really good.

“Fabrizio said to me ‘to be honest, it’s a bit heavy but when I walk on the ground it’s soft but you can’t see the water come out.’ “Thinking that in the next 20 hours they were thinking it would not rain and then start just at the beginning of the game – after half-an-hour or an hour you can imagine that the pitch would not be fantastic for the show but for a prediction with the weather it is a game you can play.

“There wasn’t a risk for the players. At the beginning the referee agreed that they should wait but at the end he wasn’t sure, he made some phone calls to someone, to the referee, and they said after one hour that the game was postponed.

“The groundsman said it would be okay for play even if it is not perfect, so we should have more belief in the people who work on this ground and the club at home. They wanted to go through and try to have a chance to play.”

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5:21pm Sat 29 Dec 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them?
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I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation.
---.
What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!
I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant! SAPFanSTFC

5:26pm Sat 29 Dec 12

old town robin says...

Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway.

Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily.

New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/
Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/ old town robin

5:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

ShearerShearer says...

"What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!"

This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league
"What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!" This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league ShearerShearer

5:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!
Think the phone calls might have been to the MET Office as there was flood warnings all over ENGLAND and wales...

WELL IT DID RAIN A BIT,,sorry its hissed down all night and day
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant![/p][/quote]Think the phone calls might have been to the MET Office as there was flood warnings all over ENGLAND and wales... WELL IT DID RAIN A BIT,,sorry its hissed down all night and day DarrenSTFCRomain

5:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Barnsley sack MANAGER K.Hill...

Will PDC be in the running ??
HA HA answer no..lol
Barnsley sack MANAGER K.Hill... Will PDC be in the running ?? HA HA answer no..lol DarrenSTFCRomain

6:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

old town robin wrote:
Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/
benson cant play against us agreed on loan contract,just as well,be interesting how mcloed plays bearing in mind paolo dont want him now.
wilsons slide begins before new year lol.
cant understand why only 800 tickets has been sold for bmuff game? very dissapointing
onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/[/p][/quote]benson cant play against us agreed on loan contract,just as well,be interesting how mcloed plays bearing in mind paolo dont want him now. wilsons slide begins before new year lol. cant understand why only 800 tickets has been sold for bmuff game? very dissapointing onwards and upwards smirg kcab

6:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Barnsley sack MANAGER K.Hill... Will PDC be in the running ?? HA HA answer no..lol
short listed for wolves tho darren.
inwards and outwards
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: Barnsley sack MANAGER K.Hill... Will PDC be in the running ?? HA HA answer no..lol[/p][/quote]short listed for wolves tho darren. inwards and outwards smirg kcab

6:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

smirg kcab wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote: Barnsley sack MANAGER K.Hill... Will PDC be in the running ?? HA HA answer no..lol
short listed for wolves tho darren. inwards and outwards
That was only with the bookies mate..
I think my name was on that list..
i was 5trilion/1.
Upwards and downwards

The table is starting to take shape now

1st..Trannie played 25 points 47..
2nd sheff utd played 25 points 46..
3rd Donnie played 24..points 46..
4th Brentford played 24 points 45..
5th bournemouth played 24 points 41..
6th SWINDON played 23 points 39..
7 mkd points 39..
8 Crawley 38 points..
9th coventry 37 points..
10th stevenage 37 points
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: Barnsley sack MANAGER K.Hill... Will PDC be in the running ?? HA HA answer no..lol[/p][/quote]short listed for wolves tho darren. inwards and outwards[/p][/quote]That was only with the bookies mate.. I think my name was on that list.. i was 5trilion/1. Upwards and downwards The table is starting to take shape now 1st..Trannie played 25 points 47.. 2nd sheff utd played 25 points 46.. 3rd Donnie played 24..points 46.. 4th Brentford played 24 points 45.. 5th bournemouth played 24 points 41.. 6th SWINDON played 23 points 39.. 7 mkd points 39.. 8 Crawley 38 points.. 9th coventry 37 points.. 10th stevenage 37 points DarrenSTFCRomain

7:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12

the don69 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/
benson cant play against us agreed on loan contract,just as well,be interesting how mcloed plays bearing in mind paolo dont want him now.
wilsons slide begins before new year lol.
cant understand why only 800 tickets has been sold for bmuff game? very dissapointing
onwards and upwards
Chaps,Beno and I've just heard McLoed can't play against us cause he got booked today,that puts him out of our game!after our mid-winter break lets hope we're fresh and full of beans,we should set about Pompey in the manner as we did against Tranny(that's if we can get the game on)lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/[/p][/quote]benson cant play against us agreed on loan contract,just as well,be interesting how mcloed plays bearing in mind paolo dont want him now. wilsons slide begins before new year lol. cant understand why only 800 tickets has been sold for bmuff game? very dissapointing onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Chaps,Beno and I've just heard McLoed can't play against us cause he got booked today,that puts him out of our game!after our mid-winter break lets hope we're fresh and full of beans,we should set about Pompey in the manner as we did against Tranny(that's if we can get the game on)lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! the don69

8:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

Jonathan smith has gone to Luton for £50,000 liked his attitude and never let us down, good luck to him,
Onwards and wot Eva
Jonathan smith has gone to Luton for £50,000 liked his attitude and never let us down, good luck to him, Onwards and wot Eva smirg kcab

8:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

ShearerShearer wrote:
"What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!"

This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league
Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.
[quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: "What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!" This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league[/p][/quote]Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later. Oi Den!

9:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12

old town robin says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Jonathan smith has gone to Luton for £50,000 liked his attitude and never let us down, good luck to him,
Onwards and wot Eva
No chance of a sell on clause there then grim, Expect Connell to command a fee too when the Bamps sell him, he scored two first half penalties today, must be into double figures by now and a league cup semi to boot to look forward too. Pity his replacements have forgotton how to score from the spot. never mind as others have said neither were good enough for us in div 1.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Jonathan smith has gone to Luton for £50,000 liked his attitude and never let us down, good luck to him, Onwards and wot Eva[/p][/quote]No chance of a sell on clause there then grim, Expect Connell to command a fee too when the Bamps sell him, he scored two first half penalties today, must be into double figures by now and a league cup semi to boot to look forward too. Pity his replacements have forgotton how to score from the spot. never mind as others have said neither were good enough for us in div 1. old town robin

9:24pm Sat 29 Dec 12

mikek says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Jonathan smith has gone to Luton for £50,000 liked his attitude and never let us down, good luck to him,
Onwards and wot Eva
Yes liked him Grim decent player even if he got carried away when diving in but tough tackling midfielder. What I do not understand is we paid money for him from York then give him back to them on a free and flaming eck they only go and sell him again and make another 50k are we really that stupid.Sucks I reckon.
Just can not understand on earth the Orient game went ahead today after the pitch was unfit Tuesday and if anything the weather has got worse since then so what the hell is going on here. Should be able to do a number on Pompey Tuesday with no Benson or McLeod. Considering we played no games since Tranmere we are still sitting pretty in 6th.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Jonathan smith has gone to Luton for £50,000 liked his attitude and never let us down, good luck to him, Onwards and wot Eva[/p][/quote]Yes liked him Grim decent player even if he got carried away when diving in but tough tackling midfielder. What I do not understand is we paid money for him from York then give him back to them on a free and flaming eck they only go and sell him again and make another 50k are we really that stupid.Sucks I reckon. Just can not understand on earth the Orient game went ahead today after the pitch was unfit Tuesday and if anything the weather has got worse since then so what the hell is going on here. Should be able to do a number on Pompey Tuesday with no Benson or McLeod. Considering we played no games since Tranmere we are still sitting pretty in 6th. mikek

9:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12

the wizard says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them?
---.
I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation.
---.
What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!
Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings.

I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant![/p][/quote]Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings. I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery. the wizard

10:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

Wiz, we don't often disagree but I don't think it stinks at all. I agree that it seems a little odd but that's all. I just can't believe that any club would be able to work the system that easily (even if they wanted to). Also, if it was that easy to predict that we would beat Orient and they would beat Walsall, none of us would ever have to work - we'd all make a fortune from the bookies. Sometimes the weather wins, sometimes we can beat it. Why does it always have to be somebody's fault when things don't work out the way we want? If all the complaints of the last few years are justified, then opposition managers, opposition players, referees, linesmen, fourth officials, the FA and the Football League must all be engaged in some vast conspiracy to do us down. On the other hand it could just be that you win some, you lose some - and you have to take the rough with the smooth.
Wiz, we don't often disagree but I don't think it stinks at all. I agree that it seems a little odd but that's all. I just can't believe that any club would be able to work the system that easily (even if they wanted to). Also, if it was that easy to predict that we would beat Orient and they would beat Walsall, none of us would ever have to work - we'd all make a fortune from the bookies. Sometimes the weather wins, sometimes we can beat it. Why does it always have to be somebody's fault when things don't work out the way we want? If all the complaints of the last few years are justified, then opposition managers, opposition players, referees, linesmen, fourth officials, the FA and the Football League must all be engaged in some vast conspiracy to do us down. On the other hand it could just be that you win some, you lose some - and you have to take the rough with the smooth. Oi Den!

10:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12

London Red says...

Connell actually has 8 in 29 - so hardly breath taking stuff
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Collins has 8 in 26 in a higher league and including a hat-trick away to unbeaten at home for 19 league games Stoke!
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Think the Connell thing should really be put to bed for good now!
Connell actually has 8 in 29 - so hardly breath taking stuff . Collins has 8 in 26 in a higher league and including a hat-trick away to unbeaten at home for 19 league games Stoke! . Think the Connell thing should really be put to bed for good now! London Red

10:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, we don't often disagree but I don't think it stinks at all. I agree that it seems a little odd but that's all. I just can't believe that any club would be able to work the system that easily (even if they wanted to). Also, if it was that easy to predict that we would beat Orient and they would beat Walsall, none of us would ever have to work - we'd all make a fortune from the bookies. Sometimes the weather wins, sometimes we can beat it. Why does it always have to be somebody's fault when things don't work out the way we want? If all the complaints of the last few years are justified, then opposition managers, opposition players, referees, linesmen, fourth officials, the FA and the Football League must all be engaged in some vast conspiracy to do us down. On the other hand it could just be that you win some, you lose some - and you have to take the rough with the smooth.
They were quaking in their boots Den!they didn't fancy playing that Wee club from Wiltshire,so they left their pitch to get waterlogged!then mopped it up after Boxing day,had a nice rest and then beat that Polish team,it's been done many times in the past Den and no doubt it'll be done again,it's just using the elements in your favour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Wiz, we don't often disagree but I don't think it stinks at all. I agree that it seems a little odd but that's all. I just can't believe that any club would be able to work the system that easily (even if they wanted to). Also, if it was that easy to predict that we would beat Orient and they would beat Walsall, none of us would ever have to work - we'd all make a fortune from the bookies. Sometimes the weather wins, sometimes we can beat it. Why does it always have to be somebody's fault when things don't work out the way we want? If all the complaints of the last few years are justified, then opposition managers, opposition players, referees, linesmen, fourth officials, the FA and the Football League must all be engaged in some vast conspiracy to do us down. On the other hand it could just be that you win some, you lose some - and you have to take the rough with the smooth.[/p][/quote]They were quaking in their boots Den!they didn't fancy playing that Wee club from Wiltshire,so they left their pitch to get waterlogged!then mopped it up after Boxing day,had a nice rest and then beat that Polish team,it's been done many times in the past Den and no doubt it'll be done again,it's just using the elements in your favour!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! the don69

11:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

Haha! Nice one Don but I still think it's nonsense!
Haha! Nice one Don but I still think it's nonsense! Oi Den!

11:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12

the wizard says...

Den and Don, nice one chaps think we will have to agree to dis agree, but I think we all agree on the fact our club does its best no matter what the weather throws at us, and although we all have our separate opinions, we can agree that our club tries above all else to be honest and fair in such matters.

And can we all agree on New Years best wishes for health and wealth etc ?, I sincerely hope so. Have a good one chaps.
Den and Don, nice one chaps think we will have to agree to dis agree, but I think we all agree on the fact our club does its best no matter what the weather throws at us, and although we all have our separate opinions, we can agree that our club tries above all else to be honest and fair in such matters. And can we all agree on New Years best wishes for health and wealth etc ?, I sincerely hope so. Have a good one chaps. the wizard

11:54pm Sat 29 Dec 12

stfc2012 says...

Unless you inspected the orient pitch before our game and then 3 days later then you can't comment. As said in the article here a lot can change in a day or 2 so this type of speculation just silly. We don't want a build up of games but the weather is the weather.
Unless you inspected the orient pitch before our game and then 3 days later then you can't comment. As said in the article here a lot can change in a day or 2 so this type of speculation just silly. We don't want a build up of games but the weather is the weather. stfc2012

12:27am Sun 30 Dec 12

old town robin says...

London Red wrote:
Connell actually has 8 in 29 - so hardly breath taking stuff
.
Collins has 8 in 26 in a higher league and including a hat-trick away to unbeaten at home for 19 league games Stoke!
.
Think the Connell thing should really be put to bed for good now!
LR, think you missed the point, if you are refering to my post, it had nothing to do with whether we should have kept Connell or not, the point I was trying to make is we paid good money to buy players like him and Smith, give them away for nothing and then see Smith sold off for £50k, it was a tounge in cheek comment that bradford will want something for him if they ever decided to sell him on. Not very good business by STFC, but I know you will argue the point we saved ourselves money by getting them off the books, but then there's still two other players from last season that we will get nothing for when they go, but they're still on our books and will never play for us again., they should have gone with the other 20 odd that departed in the summer.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Connell actually has 8 in 29 - so hardly breath taking stuff . Collins has 8 in 26 in a higher league and including a hat-trick away to unbeaten at home for 19 league games Stoke! . Think the Connell thing should really be put to bed for good now![/p][/quote]LR, think you missed the point, if you are refering to my post, it had nothing to do with whether we should have kept Connell or not, the point I was trying to make is we paid good money to buy players like him and Smith, give them away for nothing and then see Smith sold off for £50k, it was a tounge in cheek comment that bradford will want something for him if they ever decided to sell him on. Not very good business by STFC, but I know you will argue the point we saved ourselves money by getting them off the books, but then there's still two other players from last season that we will get nothing for when they go, but they're still on our books and will never play for us again., they should have gone with the other 20 odd that departed in the summer. old town robin

8:37am Sun 30 Dec 12

hertz says...

Any other time I may think teams might try to avoid certain games , but big gate games like Boxing Day having sorted all the catering and programs etc I would like to think it is in best interest for the club to get the game on . I seem to remember when we went there last time (when that flare hit me then caught the stand on fire (almost)) there was a lot of sand on the far side that day . Looks like Wison has let his team out on the lash all over Christmas again .
Any other time I may think teams might try to avoid certain games , but big gate games like Boxing Day having sorted all the catering and programs etc I would like to think it is in best interest for the club to get the game on . I seem to remember when we went there last time (when that flare hit me then caught the stand on fire (almost)) there was a lot of sand on the far side that day . Looks like Wison has let his team out on the lash all over Christmas again . hertz

9:20am Sun 30 Dec 12

davel4848 says...

Regarding the Orient postponement. Two points to bear in mind. Firstly, there was a tube strike, so imagine the club officials saying to the referee, 'Don't forget the tube strike and people getting here with difficulty, only for the match to be cancelled(Orient fans, not us). What would the ref do ?
Secondly, Orient officials and fans were delighted the game was called off, due to several key players not quite ready to return from injury.
Then the weather. A dry Christmas day in London then rain on 27th/28th/29th and their pitch looked almost perfect yesterday.
Suspicious ? You make your minds up.
Regarding the Orient postponement. Two points to bear in mind. Firstly, there was a tube strike, so imagine the club officials saying to the referee, 'Don't forget the tube strike and people getting here with difficulty, only for the match to be cancelled(Orient fans, not us). What would the ref do ? Secondly, Orient officials and fans were delighted the game was called off, due to several key players not quite ready to return from injury. Then the weather. A dry Christmas day in London then rain on 27th/28th/29th and their pitch looked almost perfect yesterday. Suspicious ? You make your minds up. davel4848

9:40am Sun 30 Dec 12

London Red says...

OTR - sorry if if I got the point wrong - but there have been a fair few comments over the season suggesting we would be top had we played Benson and Connell (which I don't agree with) and thought by the goal remark you were saying a similar thing
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Yes you have a point that we have probably lost out on 50, 60 or even 100k in fees by granting them a free transfer
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But PdC said they could have demanded that fee but wanted to do right by the players (fair play to our board for looking out for them as they were being used as a commodity)
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I.e. did the free transfer get Connell and extra £500 a week in wages?
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Don't forget Andrew Black is worth over £250m - so £100k to him is nothing
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Granted he should not just throw it around but that is a very very small price to pay to get us in a better position to go up to the Championship where our revenue will shoot up by millions - then will we/he really care about £100k lost fee?
OTR - sorry if if I got the point wrong - but there have been a fair few comments over the season suggesting we would be top had we played Benson and Connell (which I don't agree with) and thought by the goal remark you were saying a similar thing . Yes you have a point that we have probably lost out on 50, 60 or even 100k in fees by granting them a free transfer . But PdC said they could have demanded that fee but wanted to do right by the players (fair play to our board for looking out for them as they were being used as a commodity) . I.e. did the free transfer get Connell and extra £500 a week in wages? . Don't forget Andrew Black is worth over £250m - so £100k to him is nothing . Granted he should not just throw it around but that is a very very small price to pay to get us in a better position to go up to the Championship where our revenue will shoot up by millions - then will we/he really care about £100k lost fee? London Red

9:49am Sun 30 Dec 12

Haydonender says...

It was a shame the last two games have been off as we were in great form but hopefully the players can pick up where they left off against Portsmouth
It was a shame the last two games have been off as we were in great form but hopefully the players can pick up where they left off against Portsmouth Haydonender

9:59am Sun 30 Dec 12

Stratton Red says...

Just hoped the team are fired up for Pompey on Tue and not lethargic missing two games.
*
Laughable the conspiracy nonense abour Orient... they will have wanted the game on, cash flow and bigger Boxing Day crowd. There were 8 of us going and now 0 if it's a Tue night.
Just hoped the team are fired up for Pompey on Tue and not lethargic missing two games. * Laughable the conspiracy nonense abour Orient... they will have wanted the game on, cash flow and bigger Boxing Day crowd. There were 8 of us going and now 0 if it's a Tue night. Stratton Red

10:19am Sun 30 Dec 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

the wizard wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them?
---.
I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation.
---.
What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!
Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings.

I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.
Hi there Wiz,
...
And a VERY Happy New Year to you too Wiz! :-)
---.
Several have stated the obvious about it raining all night before but funnily enough my sister lives fairly close and they had a deluge prior to yesterday's game as well....oh and it didn't stop raining for too long on the days in between...3 days buys you a lot of time for injuries etc.
---.
If they could get one of the two games on they should have been able to get both on.....unsurprisingl
y maybe it was worth more of an effort to get Walsall on as Tuesday night v Swindon will still get a decent home crowd and won't impact on our travelling numbers by too much.
---.
Personally it may work out better for me with this and Colchester being moved to Tuesday nights as I may be working in Ipswich for a few months from January.
.
Just hoping that our new drainage is all working well for Tuesday...unfortunat
ely Monday's weather is no longer looking as dry as hoped so am a bit concerned now.....fingers crossed!!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant![/p][/quote]Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings. I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.[/p][/quote]Hi there Wiz, ... And a VERY Happy New Year to you too Wiz! :-) ---. Several have stated the obvious about it raining all night before but funnily enough my sister lives fairly close and they had a deluge prior to yesterday's game as well....oh and it didn't stop raining for too long on the days in between...3 days buys you a lot of time for injuries etc. ---. If they could get one of the two games on they should have been able to get both on.....unsurprisingl y maybe it was worth more of an effort to get Walsall on as Tuesday night v Swindon will still get a decent home crowd and won't impact on our travelling numbers by too much. ---. Personally it may work out better for me with this and Colchester being moved to Tuesday nights as I may be working in Ipswich for a few months from January. . Just hoping that our new drainage is all working well for Tuesday...unfortunat ely Monday's weather is no longer looking as dry as hoped so am a bit concerned now.....fingers crossed!! SAPFanSTFC

10:44am Sun 30 Dec 12

the wizard says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
the wizard wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them?
---.
I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation.
---.
What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!
Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings.

I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.
Hi there Wiz,
...
And a VERY Happy New Year to you too Wiz! :-)
---.
Several have stated the obvious about it raining all night before but funnily enough my sister lives fairly close and they had a deluge prior to yesterday's game as well....oh and it didn't stop raining for too long on the days in between...3 days buys you a lot of time for injuries etc.
---.
If they could get one of the two games on they should have been able to get both on.....unsurprisingl

y maybe it was worth more of an effort to get Walsall on as Tuesday night v Swindon will still get a decent home crowd and won't impact on our travelling numbers by too much.
---.
Personally it may work out better for me with this and Colchester being moved to Tuesday nights as I may be working in Ipswich for a few months from January.
.
Just hoping that our new drainage is all working well for Tuesday...unfortunat

ely Monday's weather is no longer looking as dry as hoped so am a bit concerned now.....fingers crossed!!
Cheers for that, best wishes of course.

Dunno if you saw the FL show last night, but very pleasing to see the footage at Brizzle City and their ground crew removing the water off of the covers they had on their pitch. Perhaps this footage should be sent to the likes of Hearne, the guy who wants the Olympic Park, run a club ? can't run a bath, let alone turn the taps off, lol.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant![/p][/quote]Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings. I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.[/p][/quote]Hi there Wiz, ... And a VERY Happy New Year to you too Wiz! :-) ---. Several have stated the obvious about it raining all night before but funnily enough my sister lives fairly close and they had a deluge prior to yesterday's game as well....oh and it didn't stop raining for too long on the days in between...3 days buys you a lot of time for injuries etc. ---. If they could get one of the two games on they should have been able to get both on.....unsurprisingl y maybe it was worth more of an effort to get Walsall on as Tuesday night v Swindon will still get a decent home crowd and won't impact on our travelling numbers by too much. ---. Personally it may work out better for me with this and Colchester being moved to Tuesday nights as I may be working in Ipswich for a few months from January. . Just hoping that our new drainage is all working well for Tuesday...unfortunat ely Monday's weather is no longer looking as dry as hoped so am a bit concerned now.....fingers crossed!![/p][/quote]Cheers for that, best wishes of course. Dunno if you saw the FL show last night, but very pleasing to see the footage at Brizzle City and their ground crew removing the water off of the covers they had on their pitch. Perhaps this footage should be sent to the likes of Hearne, the guy who wants the Olympic Park, run a club ? can't run a bath, let alone turn the taps off, lol. the wizard

11:11am Sun 30 Dec 12

TelSTFC says...

smirg kcab wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/
benson cant play against us agreed on loan contract,just as well,be interesting how mcloed plays bearing in mind paolo dont want him now.
wilsons slide begins before new year lol.
cant understand why only 800 tickets has been sold for bmuff game? very dissapointing
onwards and upwards
800 tickets is fine so far we are not into January yet & if we beat Portsmouth & Carlisle we will sell out our allocation. Plenty of time to still by the tickets for the B'mouth game :)
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Fair play to Colchester if they wanted the game to go ahead as much as we did, conditions would have probably been better suited their style of play anyway. Agree with Paolo, strange decision by the official to postpone it the day before it was due to be played. I can understand the decision if a pitch has frosted or iced up, but to call it off so soon because it's soggy is a bit OTT. can only think it was to prevent away fans travelling unnecessarily. New year's day is a big one now, are we going to let Benson play against us like we did Risser/[/p][/quote]benson cant play against us agreed on loan contract,just as well,be interesting how mcloed plays bearing in mind paolo dont want him now. wilsons slide begins before new year lol. cant understand why only 800 tickets has been sold for bmuff game? very dissapointing onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]800 tickets is fine so far we are not into January yet & if we beat Portsmouth & Carlisle we will sell out our allocation. Plenty of time to still by the tickets for the B'mouth game :) TelSTFC

11:17am Sun 30 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

the wizard wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
the wizard wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them?
---.
I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation.
---.
What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!
Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings.

I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.
Hi there Wiz,
...
And a VERY Happy New Year to you too Wiz! :-)
---.
Several have stated the obvious about it raining all night before but funnily enough my sister lives fairly close and they had a deluge prior to yesterday's game as well....oh and it didn't stop raining for too long on the days in between...3 days buys you a lot of time for injuries etc.
---.
If they could get one of the two games on they should have been able to get both on.....unsurprisingl


y maybe it was worth more of an effort to get Walsall on as Tuesday night v Swindon will still get a decent home crowd and won't impact on our travelling numbers by too much.
---.
Personally it may work out better for me with this and Colchester being moved to Tuesday nights as I may be working in Ipswich for a few months from January.
.
Just hoping that our new drainage is all working well for Tuesday...unfortunat


ely Monday's weather is no longer looking as dry as hoped so am a bit concerned now.....fingers crossed!!
Cheers for that, best wishes of course.

Dunno if you saw the FL show last night, but very pleasing to see the footage at Brizzle City and their ground crew removing the water off of the covers they had on their pitch. Perhaps this footage should be sent to the likes of Hearne, the guy who wants the Olympic Park, run a club ? can't run a bath, let alone turn the taps off, lol.
Ah Wiz, would that be the same Bristol City that had a Boxing Day home game postponed because of a waterlogged pitch? Theirs is exactly the same situation as Orient's - pitch unfit for play on Boxing Day but playable 3 days later. Yet Orient are villains and City deserve praise or their efforts? Come off it Wiz. This is just a shameless and selective blame game.
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I agree with you that our club makes every effort to get games played - just like every other club up and down the country.
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I'm also with you on good wishes to all for the New Year. All the best to you and yours. Maybe we could extend those wishes to other football clubs, instead of having a go at them for no other reason than the fact that we've been inconvenienced!
.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: I thought there was heavy rain predicted for overnight and form Saturday midday for them? ---. I wasn't at all surprised about the postponement but doing it the day before is a tad unusual in the cirumstances described above...an early inspection on the Saturday would have helped the fans out but many would still have been under way so I guess it is a no-win situation. ---. What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant![/p][/quote]Sapfan, Best New Year Greetings. I thought it was me being a bit cynical but your last paragraph sums up my thoughts completely, and, I'll bet they've got guys back from injury etc now as well. You are quite correct, it stinks, and it has continued to rain since our game, so quite how its playable now and not before is, and will remain, a mystery.[/p][/quote]Hi there Wiz, ... And a VERY Happy New Year to you too Wiz! :-) ---. Several have stated the obvious about it raining all night before but funnily enough my sister lives fairly close and they had a deluge prior to yesterday's game as well....oh and it didn't stop raining for too long on the days in between...3 days buys you a lot of time for injuries etc. ---. If they could get one of the two games on they should have been able to get both on.....unsurprisingl y maybe it was worth more of an effort to get Walsall on as Tuesday night v Swindon will still get a decent home crowd and won't impact on our travelling numbers by too much. ---. Personally it may work out better for me with this and Colchester being moved to Tuesday nights as I may be working in Ipswich for a few months from January. . Just hoping that our new drainage is all working well for Tuesday...unfortunat ely Monday's weather is no longer looking as dry as hoped so am a bit concerned now.....fingers crossed!![/p][/quote]Cheers for that, best wishes of course. Dunno if you saw the FL show last night, but very pleasing to see the footage at Brizzle City and their ground crew removing the water off of the covers they had on their pitch. Perhaps this footage should be sent to the likes of Hearne, the guy who wants the Olympic Park, run a club ? can't run a bath, let alone turn the taps off, lol.[/p][/quote]Ah Wiz, would that be the same Bristol City that had a Boxing Day home game postponed because of a waterlogged pitch? Theirs is exactly the same situation as Orient's - pitch unfit for play on Boxing Day but playable 3 days later. Yet Orient are villains and City deserve praise or their efforts? Come off it Wiz. This is just a shameless and selective blame game. . I agree with you that our club makes every effort to get games played - just like every other club up and down the country. . I'm also with you on good wishes to all for the New Year. All the best to you and yours. Maybe we could extend those wishes to other football clubs, instead of having a go at them for no other reason than the fact that we've been inconvenienced! . Oi Den!

12:44pm Sun 30 Dec 12

stfc2012 says...

Lots of meteorologists and groundsman on here today.
Lots of meteorologists and groundsman on here today. stfc2012

1:20pm Sun 30 Dec 12

old town robin says...

I watched the football league show last night, two things come to mind, the Orient ground surface looked excellent to play on and I think they made it a good entertaining game against a very unlucky walsall outfit. don't know why the official for the boxing day game would not have considered it fit to play on considering weather conditions had not changed much, but I am sure in my own mind it wasn't an orient's decision, they've lost out on their overheads, programmes, pork pies etc. and a sizeable away following which I doubt they will get when it's replayed, they've already beaten us at the CG, so doubt they have any fear of us, albeit, they will take the advantage with the return of one or two of their key men, whereas we could lose one or two if we don't get the loanees future sorted.

The second point, what a mud heap at Bramble lane, it was a great leveler for the bottom club who probably relish playing in such conditions, it was so bad it was great for the monkee hangers and anyone that was brave enough to put a tenner on them at 10-1, good luck to them.

As a final note it was very evident every team in the top ten got a mention of what their chances were to make the top 6 except us, fine as long as we stay below the radar they won't know what hit them once the Paolo express gathers speed.

No more slip ups at home please Mr Di Canio, with the FA cup being played next saturday we get the chance to play one of our games in hand and if we play to our potential and other results go our way on New Year's day, we have a great chance to close the gap on the teams above us and put some distance between those below us.

COYR
I watched the football league show last night, two things come to mind, the Orient ground surface looked excellent to play on and I think they made it a good entertaining game against a very unlucky walsall outfit. don't know why the official for the boxing day game would not have considered it fit to play on considering weather conditions had not changed much, but I am sure in my own mind it wasn't an orient's decision, they've lost out on their overheads, programmes, pork pies etc. and a sizeable away following which I doubt they will get when it's replayed, they've already beaten us at the CG, so doubt they have any fear of us, albeit, they will take the advantage with the return of one or two of their key men, whereas we could lose one or two if we don't get the loanees future sorted. The second point, what a mud heap at Bramble lane, it was a great leveler for the bottom club who probably relish playing in such conditions, it was so bad it was great for the monkee hangers and anyone that was brave enough to put a tenner on them at 10-1, good luck to them. As a final note it was very evident every team in the top ten got a mention of what their chances were to make the top 6 except us, fine as long as we stay below the radar they won't know what hit them once the Paolo express gathers speed. No more slip ups at home please Mr Di Canio, with the FA cup being played next saturday we get the chance to play one of our games in hand and if we play to our potential and other results go our way on New Year's day, we have a great chance to close the gap on the teams above us and put some distance between those below us. COYR old town robin

1:22pm Sun 30 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

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2:04pm Sun 30 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

What loan players will be going back to there clubs in the new year..
Is it Bostock Ward Holland Miller.?

and what player are due back at STFC ??
What loan players will be going back to there clubs in the new year.. Is it Bostock Ward Holland Miller.? and what player are due back at STFC ?? DarrenSTFCRomain

3:22pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Swindon1984 says...

Seems like this could be an ongoing theme - already booked train tickets for Bournemouth away, wonder what the odds of that going ahead are giving the flooding in Dorset!
Seems like this could be an ongoing theme - already booked train tickets for Bournemouth away, wonder what the odds of that going ahead are giving the flooding in Dorset! Swindon1984

4:01pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Blazing Riff says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Seems like this could be an ongoing theme - already booked train tickets for Bournemouth away, wonder what the odds of that going ahead are giving the flooding in Dorset!
Well, it was absolutely tonkin' down yesterday when I drove past their ground en route to Swanage (where I live) at about 3.05 pm and their match wasn't abandoned. Not been too bad here today.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: Seems like this could be an ongoing theme - already booked train tickets for Bournemouth away, wonder what the odds of that going ahead are giving the flooding in Dorset![/p][/quote]Well, it was absolutely tonkin' down yesterday when I drove past their ground en route to Swanage (where I live) at about 3.05 pm and their match wasn't abandoned. Not been too bad here today. Blazing Riff

4:44pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Swindon1984 says...

Blazing Riff wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
Seems like this could be an ongoing theme - already booked train tickets for Bournemouth away, wonder what the odds of that going ahead are giving the flooding in Dorset!
Well, it was absolutely tonkin' down yesterday when I drove past their ground en route to Swanage (where I live) at about 3.05 pm and their match wasn't abandoned. Not been too bad here today.
Good stuff, would be an expensive one to miss out on, nearly thirty quid spent on travel already, don't want to fork out for it twice!
[quote][p][bold]Blazing Riff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: Seems like this could be an ongoing theme - already booked train tickets for Bournemouth away, wonder what the odds of that going ahead are giving the flooding in Dorset![/p][/quote]Well, it was absolutely tonkin' down yesterday when I drove past their ground en route to Swanage (where I live) at about 3.05 pm and their match wasn't abandoned. Not been too bad here today.[/p][/quote]Good stuff, would be an expensive one to miss out on, nearly thirty quid spent on travel already, don't want to fork out for it twice! Swindon1984

6:37pm Sun 30 Dec 12

London Red says...

All loans bar Rooney are due to expire
.
So that's
.
Ward
Bostock
Coke
Holland
Martin
.
Plus Bessone - who was basically a loan is due to expire too
.
We then have all ours bar Caddis due back
.
Risser
Cox
Rooney
Benson
.
Plenty of room for manoeuvre there
.
For me keep Ward Hollands and Martin
.
Bostock only if we have enough wages to keep the 3 above and sign another striker and fullback
.
Let the rest go - will leave the squa at a good size, well balanced and plenty of quality
All loans bar Rooney are due to expire . So that's . Ward Bostock Coke Holland Martin . Plus Bessone - who was basically a loan is due to expire too . We then have all ours bar Caddis due back . Risser Cox Rooney Benson . Plenty of room for manoeuvre there . For me keep Ward Hollands and Martin . Bostock only if we have enough wages to keep the 3 above and sign another striker and fullback . Let the rest go - will leave the squa at a good size, well balanced and plenty of quality London Red

7:38pm Sun 30 Dec 12

ShearerShearer says...

Oi Den! wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote:
"What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!"

This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league
Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.
I never suggested any reason as to why the game was not played, you just interpreted it as arrogance.

All I said was that it needed investigating, it did subsequently rain for the following three days.

But of course the FL only investigate things involving STFC when they've done something wrong (a la 1989-1990 season!), I'm not bitter.....
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: "What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!" This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league[/p][/quote]Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.[/p][/quote]I never suggested any reason as to why the game was not played, you just interpreted it as arrogance. All I said was that it needed investigating, it did subsequently rain for the following three days. But of course the FL only investigate things involving STFC when they've done something wrong (a la 1989-1990 season!), I'm not bitter..... ShearerShearer

10:19pm Sun 30 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

London Red wrote:
All loans bar Rooney are due to expire . So that's . Ward Bostock Coke Holland Martin . Plus Bessone - who was basically a loan is due to expire too . We then have all ours bar Caddis due back . Risser Cox Rooney Benson . Plenty of room for manoeuvre there . For me keep Ward Hollands and Martin . Bostock only if we have enough wages to keep the 3 above and sign another striker and fullback . Let the rest go - will leave the squa at a good size, well balanced and plenty of quality
Thanks LR
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: All loans bar Rooney are due to expire . So that's . Ward Bostock Coke Holland Martin . Plus Bessone - who was basically a loan is due to expire too . We then have all ours bar Caddis due back . Risser Cox Rooney Benson . Plenty of room for manoeuvre there . For me keep Ward Hollands and Martin . Bostock only if we have enough wages to keep the 3 above and sign another striker and fullback . Let the rest go - will leave the squa at a good size, well balanced and plenty of quality[/p][/quote]Thanks LR DarrenSTFCRomain

10:24pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

ShearerShearer wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote:
"What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!"

This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league
Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.
I never suggested any reason as to why the game was not played, you just interpreted it as arrogance.

All I said was that it needed investigating, it did subsequently rain for the following three days.

But of course the FL only investigate things involving STFC when they've done something wrong (a la 1989-1990 season!), I'm not bitter.....
Apologies for a poor choice of words. If we were having this exchange 20 years ago I would have agreed with you. However, even then I don't think it was the League being particularly anti-STFC. I think they took the cowardly approach of making an example of a small(ish) club, while letting bigger ones off lightly because they were scared of the power they wielded - Chelsea (then still in the League) being the obvious example. I doubt that many people were more active in defending the club against the League than I was at the time. But that's all water under the bridge. I think it's quite likely that most people at the League don't have the faintest recollection of those events of 1990. I can't imagine that anyone there now has an axe to grind as far as we are concerned.
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Bristol City and Wimbledon (not too far from Leyton) had games postponed on Boxing Day but managed to have a playable pitch 3 days later. Maybe all 3 clubs deserve a pat on the back for their efforts in getting one game played rather than none, instead of having the machinery of the Football League bearing down on them.
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I'm sure every club in the League could come up with examples to "justify" their theory that the FA/League/officials have an agenda against them. And I think every one of them would be misguided.
[quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: "What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!" This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league[/p][/quote]Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.[/p][/quote]I never suggested any reason as to why the game was not played, you just interpreted it as arrogance. All I said was that it needed investigating, it did subsequently rain for the following three days. But of course the FL only investigate things involving STFC when they've done something wrong (a la 1989-1990 season!), I'm not bitter.....[/p][/quote]Apologies for a poor choice of words. If we were having this exchange 20 years ago I would have agreed with you. However, even then I don't think it was the League being particularly anti-STFC. I think they took the cowardly approach of making an example of a small(ish) club, while letting bigger ones off lightly because they were scared of the power they wielded - Chelsea (then still in the League) being the obvious example. I doubt that many people were more active in defending the club against the League than I was at the time. But that's all water under the bridge. I think it's quite likely that most people at the League don't have the faintest recollection of those events of 1990. I can't imagine that anyone there now has an axe to grind as far as we are concerned. . Bristol City and Wimbledon (not too far from Leyton) had games postponed on Boxing Day but managed to have a playable pitch 3 days later. Maybe all 3 clubs deserve a pat on the back for their efforts in getting one game played rather than none, instead of having the machinery of the Football League bearing down on them. . I'm sure every club in the League could come up with examples to "justify" their theory that the FA/League/officials have an agenda against them. And I think every one of them would be misguided. Oi Den!

10:42pm Sun 30 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Oi Den! wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote: "What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!" This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league
Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.
I never suggested any reason as to why the game was not played, you just interpreted it as arrogance. All I said was that it needed investigating, it did subsequently rain for the following three days. But of course the FL only investigate things involving STFC when they've done something wrong (a la 1989-1990 season!), I'm not bitter.....
Apologies for a poor choice of words. If we were having this exchange 20 years ago I would have agreed with you. However, even then I don't think it was the League being particularly anti-STFC. I think they took the cowardly approach of making an example of a small(ish) club, while letting bigger ones off lightly because they were scared of the power they wielded - Chelsea (then still in the League) being the obvious example. I doubt that many people were more active in defending the club against the League than I was at the time. But that's all water under the bridge. I think it's quite likely that most people at the League don't have the faintest recollection of those events of 1990. I can't imagine that anyone there now has an axe to grind as far as we are concerned. . Bristol City and Wimbledon (not too far from Leyton) had games postponed on Boxing Day but managed to have a playable pitch 3 days later. Maybe all 3 clubs deserve a pat on the back for their efforts in getting one game played rather than none, instead of having the machinery of the Football League bearing down on them. . I'm sure every club in the League could come up with examples to "justify" their theory that the FA/League/officials have an agenda against them. And I think every one of them would be misguided.
Why the FA dont make all teams have covers is just crazy..
To get a game called off over xmas must have cost them big time..
Its cost use as there is a small gap starting to apear at the top
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: "What surprised me more is that Orient couldn't get our game on but seem to have miraculously got their pitch sorted to play Walsall...!?...now that smells of something rather unpleasant!" This certainly stinks, should be investigated by the football league[/p][/quote]Surely the Football League have better things to do with their time and money than launch an investigation into the fact that a game was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch after it had been pi55ing down with rain? I don't believe for one moment that Orient wanted their game against us to be called off. I have never been pleased to see a Town game called off, however badly we might have been playing. Maybe Orient's pitch had improved sufficiently over the 3 days, or maybe the pitch was inspected by a different ref. Whatever, I think it's pretty arrogant to suggest that they would be so scared of us that they'd want to call the game off but would be happy to play someone else 3 days later.[/p][/quote]I never suggested any reason as to why the game was not played, you just interpreted it as arrogance. All I said was that it needed investigating, it did subsequently rain for the following three days. But of course the FL only investigate things involving STFC when they've done something wrong (a la 1989-1990 season!), I'm not bitter.....[/p][/quote]Apologies for a poor choice of words. If we were having this exchange 20 years ago I would have agreed with you. However, even then I don't think it was the League being particularly anti-STFC. I think they took the cowardly approach of making an example of a small(ish) club, while letting bigger ones off lightly because they were scared of the power they wielded - Chelsea (then still in the League) being the obvious example. I doubt that many people were more active in defending the club against the League than I was at the time. But that's all water under the bridge. I think it's quite likely that most people at the League don't have the faintest recollection of those events of 1990. I can't imagine that anyone there now has an axe to grind as far as we are concerned. . Bristol City and Wimbledon (not too far from Leyton) had games postponed on Boxing Day but managed to have a playable pitch 3 days later. Maybe all 3 clubs deserve a pat on the back for their efforts in getting one game played rather than none, instead of having the machinery of the Football League bearing down on them. . I'm sure every club in the League could come up with examples to "justify" their theory that the FA/League/officials have an agenda against them. And I think every one of them would be misguided.[/p][/quote]Why the FA dont make all teams have covers is just crazy.. To get a game called off over xmas must have cost them big time.. Its cost use as there is a small gap starting to apear at the top DarrenSTFCRomain

11:07pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

Agree - all League clubs should have covers. But maybe we'll never know whether it's cost us. There's no guarantee we'd have won the games. If we're good enough, we'll go up; if we're not, we won't. I've got a feeling we'll have a strong and settled side when we play the rearranged games.
Agree - all League clubs should have covers. But maybe we'll never know whether it's cost us. There's no guarantee we'd have won the games. If we're good enough, we'll go up; if we're not, we won't. I've got a feeling we'll have a strong and settled side when we play the rearranged games. Oi Den!

8:56am Mon 31 Dec 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Agree - all League clubs should have covers. But maybe we'll never know whether it's cost us. There's no guarantee we'd have won the games. If we're good enough, we'll go up; if we're not, we won't. I've got a feeling we'll have a strong and settled side when we play the rearranged games.
So will they by then - January refit time
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Agree - all League clubs should have covers. But maybe we'll never know whether it's cost us. There's no guarantee we'd have won the games. If we're good enough, we'll go up; if we're not, we won't. I've got a feeling we'll have a strong and settled side when we play the rearranged games.[/p][/quote]So will they by then - January refit time SAPFanSTFC

10:15am Mon 31 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Agree - all League clubs should have covers. But maybe we'll never know whether it's cost us. There's no guarantee we'd have won the games. If we're good enough, we'll go up; if we're not, we won't. I've got a feeling we'll have a strong and settled side when we play the rearranged games.
So will they by then - January refit time
Maybe, but not everyone is going to improve between now and the end of the season. I reckon we are well-equipped for a promotion challenge now but have only just started to settle as a team and are likely to get stronger relative to most of our opposition. Just a hunch of mine - but I don't see any reason to believe we'll have less chance of beating Orient or Colchester later in the season.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Agree - all League clubs should have covers. But maybe we'll never know whether it's cost us. There's no guarantee we'd have won the games. If we're good enough, we'll go up; if we're not, we won't. I've got a feeling we'll have a strong and settled side when we play the rearranged games.[/p][/quote]So will they by then - January refit time[/p][/quote]Maybe, but not everyone is going to improve between now and the end of the season. I reckon we are well-equipped for a promotion challenge now but have only just started to settle as a team and are likely to get stronger relative to most of our opposition. Just a hunch of mine - but I don't see any reason to believe we'll have less chance of beating Orient or Colchester later in the season. Oi Den!

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