Defensive decisions for Swindon manager

Troy Archibald-Henville

Troy Archibald-Henville

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MARK Cooper looks set to tinker with his defensive options when Swindon Town visit Tranmere Rovers this evening in an effort to protect Troy Archibald-Henville and Jay McEveley.

The defenders, both of whom have been in good form for Town in recent weeks, rarely play two competitive matches in quick succession as they manage their knees following surgery.

As a result, Cooper may draft in Raphael Rossi Branco to feature alongside Jack Stephens at the heart of the Town rearguard, while Nathan Thompson could be employed as a centre-back should the Robins boss stick with a back three.

And he even suggested Ben Gladwin, who was man of the match in central midfield on Saturday, could do a job in that position as well.

“Troy and Jay are in the situation where they have to manage their knees at the moment,” said Cooper. “They’re in a regime where they don’t really train on two consecutive days or play on a Saturday and a Tuesday until they get that strength back in their knee. What we don’t want to do is them keep playing and training and playing and training and risk them having a breakdown with their knees, maybe have to have another operation.

“They’re both out of contract so it’s a tricky situation and we have to do the best by them as well. It’s difficult for them to be able to play twice in a week at the moment.

“We’ve got Raf Branco to come back in. He’s learning and he’s definitely someone we can work with. We’ve got to take that little bit of rashness out of him but I think he can go in and play without too much worry.

“Nathan Thompson can play there, Ben Gladwin can play centre-back - looking at him on Saturday I think he can play anywhere. We’ve got options. We could easily go back to a four but we’ll see.”

Club captain Darren Ward was rested for the trip to Bristol City 10 days ago and missed the weekend win over Preston North End due to a family bereavement but he is back in contention for a place in the matchday squad.

Cooper said: “He’s available for selection. He had a family bereavement over the weekend, which is why he wasn’t involved, but he was back in training today (Monday).”

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7:10am Tue 25 Mar 14

ctown_red says...

Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him.
Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond.

As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR
Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him. Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond. As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR ctown_red
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7:49am Tue 25 Mar 14

old town robin says...

ctown_red wrote:
Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him.
Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond.

As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR
Would probably agree with your back 4, assuming Jay and Troy will be rested to be fit for the visit of the Blades. A bit of a toss up between selecting Branco for his strength or Ward's wise head experience, but at least Cooper has options, but neither would be my first choice in front of Troy and Stephens.

Haven't heard too much of their loan striker Cassidy of late is he injured?
[quote][p][bold]ctown_red[/bold] wrote: Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him. Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond. As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR[/p][/quote]Would probably agree with your back 4, assuming Jay and Troy will be rested to be fit for the visit of the Blades. A bit of a toss up between selecting Branco for his strength or Ward's wise head experience, but at least Cooper has options, but neither would be my first choice in front of Troy and Stephens. Haven't heard too much of their loan striker Cassidy of late is he injured? old town robin
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7:58am Tue 25 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

Not worth risking either as they are both better fit than injured. We have options and don't have to play 3-5-2 but Ward, Branco and Stephens could easily do a job IMO.

4-4-2 with Thompson, A.Smith, Branco and Stephens maybe or perhaps give young Oakley a run out if he is fit.

COYMR
Not worth risking either as they are both better fit than injured. We have options and don't have to play 3-5-2 but Ward, Branco and Stephens could easily do a job IMO. 4-4-2 with Thompson, A.Smith, Branco and Stephens maybe or perhaps give young Oakley a run out if he is fit. COYMR Oxon-Red
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8:10am Tue 25 Mar 14

old town robin says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Not worth risking either as they are both better fit than injured. We have options and don't have to play 3-5-2 but Ward, Branco and Stephens could easily do a job IMO.

4-4-2 with Thompson, A.Smith, Branco and Stephens maybe or perhaps give young Oakley a run out if he is fit.

COYMR
You could be right with him playing the 3 you mentioned at the back Oxon with Nat Thompson and Alex Smith getting further forward to support the midfield.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Not worth risking either as they are both better fit than injured. We have options and don't have to play 3-5-2 but Ward, Branco and Stephens could easily do a job IMO. 4-4-2 with Thompson, A.Smith, Branco and Stephens maybe or perhaps give young Oakley a run out if he is fit. COYMR[/p][/quote]You could be right with him playing the 3 you mentioned at the back Oxon with Nat Thompson and Alex Smith getting further forward to support the midfield. old town robin
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8:24am Tue 25 Mar 14

London Red says...

Think he will stick to same team with bar Troy and Jay due to the 2 game a week issues
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Ward and Branco should come in as natural CBs. Think Oakley is still out on loan?
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Ward's lack of pace can be covered by a 3 as he can be the "spare man"
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Not keen on moving Thompson to CB - yes it allows us to look at Batthram - but also prevents NT getting a run at wingback
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The 2 game issue can't continue next season - I know about 75% of the season are just Sat-Sat games - but in the periods where it is not it is too disruptive to have 2 players drop out - we will practically have a new defence tonight!
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Troy has proven (as long as the wage are right) he is worth the gamble and should be kept
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Jay has been good recently - but was very hit and miss earlier so for that reason he would be the one to go for me
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Also we have 2 other LBs in Byrne and Smith
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Plus Troy is about 5 years younger - so potential market value if he shows he can live with his knee issue
Think he will stick to same team with bar Troy and Jay due to the 2 game a week issues . Ward and Branco should come in as natural CBs. Think Oakley is still out on loan? . Ward's lack of pace can be covered by a 3 as he can be the "spare man" . Not keen on moving Thompson to CB - yes it allows us to look at Batthram - but also prevents NT getting a run at wingback . The 2 game issue can't continue next season - I know about 75% of the season are just Sat-Sat games - but in the periods where it is not it is too disruptive to have 2 players drop out - we will practically have a new defence tonight! . Troy has proven (as long as the wage are right) he is worth the gamble and should be kept . Jay has been good recently - but was very hit and miss earlier so for that reason he would be the one to go for me . Also we have 2 other LBs in Byrne and Smith . Plus Troy is about 5 years younger - so potential market value if he shows he can live with his knee issue London Red
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9:16am Tue 25 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Once safety is guaranteed, wouldn't it be better to give these two the rest of the season to recover? Or are they permanently semi-crocked? I agree with LR. We can't have a long-term situation where first choice players aren't fit enough to play 2 games in a week. It's a recipe for disruption and inconsistency.
Once safety is guaranteed, wouldn't it be better to give these two the rest of the season to recover? Or are they permanently semi-crocked? I agree with LR. We can't have a long-term situation where first choice players aren't fit enough to play 2 games in a week. It's a recipe for disruption and inconsistency. Oi Den!
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11:52am Tue 25 Mar 14

London Red says...

Isn't safety already guaranteed?
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50 points is usually the magic number - with 48 being enough when we went down last time!
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Being on 51 - that should mean no worries anymore (not that I had any as I still think it will be below 50 - can't see how bottom 4 are suddenly going to go from 0.8/0.9 a game to 1.2+ in last 8!)
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I guess there is a real arguemnt that we should seriously start to look at next season as surely the last 8 games are the best chance to see if the likes of Branco and Oakley are worth retaining
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However - there is the risk of upsetting a few -who won't see it that way and we will get the normal "I'm not renewing if that is the future" if a game goes badly because of it
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There is the risk a bit like Wolves that Brentford could run us to the mill if we played lots of our kids!
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As for Troy/Jay - I guess if either is planned on being retained IMO they should be used as much as possible as we need their potential partner to play with them to build up that understanding now and not learn it at the start of next season
Isn't safety already guaranteed? . 50 points is usually the magic number - with 48 being enough when we went down last time! . Being on 51 - that should mean no worries anymore (not that I had any as I still think it will be below 50 - can't see how bottom 4 are suddenly going to go from 0.8/0.9 a game to 1.2+ in last 8!) . I guess there is a real arguemnt that we should seriously start to look at next season as surely the last 8 games are the best chance to see if the likes of Branco and Oakley are worth retaining . However - there is the risk of upsetting a few -who won't see it that way and we will get the normal "I'm not renewing if that is the future" if a game goes badly because of it . There is the risk a bit like Wolves that Brentford could run us to the mill if we played lots of our kids! . As for Troy/Jay - I guess if either is planned on being retained IMO they should be used as much as possible as we need their potential partner to play with them to build up that understanding now and not learn it at the start of next season London Red
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1:40pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

ctown_red wrote:
Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him. Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond. As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR
Admire your optimism but even if we win and Posh lose, we're still four points off them having played a game more - also MK have Gillingham (you'd expect MK to win that) and would then be on the same points as Peterborough if they lose. Show ain't over till the fat lady sings and all but it would take some very unusual results out of our control to do it. Chuck form into that (posh 6 points from last five games, MK 9, us 5) and MK look more likely to sneak into the top six than us. Give the kids some game time, paid dividends against Preston, and let's see what they can do - better to do it now and give them some experience than risk them start of next season.
[quote][p][bold]ctown_red[/bold] wrote: Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him. Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond. As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR[/p][/quote]Admire your optimism but even if we win and Posh lose, we're still four points off them having played a game more - also MK have Gillingham (you'd expect MK to win that) and would then be on the same points as Peterborough if they lose. Show ain't over till the fat lady sings and all but it would take some very unusual results out of our control to do it. Chuck form into that (posh 6 points from last five games, MK 9, us 5) and MK look more likely to sneak into the top six than us. Give the kids some game time, paid dividends against Preston, and let's see what they can do - better to do it now and give them some experience than risk them start of next season. Swindon1984
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1:45pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
ctown_red wrote: Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him. Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond. As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR
Admire your optimism but even if we win and Posh lose, we're still four points off them having played a game more - also MK have Gillingham (you'd expect MK to win that) and would then be on the same points as Peterborough if they lose. Show ain't over till the fat lady sings and all but it would take some very unusual results out of our control to do it. Chuck form into that (posh 6 points from last five games, MK 9, us 5) and MK look more likely to sneak into the top six than us. Give the kids some game time, paid dividends against Preston, and let's see what they can do - better to do it now and give them some experience than risk them start of next season.
Put another way, if we won every remaining game from now until the end of the season, we still wouldn't uproot fourth or fifth, providing Rotherham and Preston pick up another six points in their possible 27/24 remaining. That's how far behind we are unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctown_red[/bold] wrote: Both Troy and Jay have got to be nursed carefully, for me Troy should be used a bit like big Ledley King was at spurs few years back whereas he does'nt train but plays in the games, this way i feel we would see the best of him and also see more of him. Power please give these 2 a longer contract, we need them here next season and beyond. As for tonight would like to see a back five of N.Bryne, N.Thompson, J.Stephens, D.Ward, A.Smith. I know its a long shot, but if STFC are to win we will be right back in with a shout of the playoffs, as Posh will no doubt lose to Preston which will leave us only 4 points shy. COYR[/p][/quote]Admire your optimism but even if we win and Posh lose, we're still four points off them having played a game more - also MK have Gillingham (you'd expect MK to win that) and would then be on the same points as Peterborough if they lose. Show ain't over till the fat lady sings and all but it would take some very unusual results out of our control to do it. Chuck form into that (posh 6 points from last five games, MK 9, us 5) and MK look more likely to sneak into the top six than us. Give the kids some game time, paid dividends against Preston, and let's see what they can do - better to do it now and give them some experience than risk them start of next season.[/p][/quote]Put another way, if we won every remaining game from now until the end of the season, we still wouldn't uproot fourth or fifth, providing Rotherham and Preston pick up another six points in their possible 27/24 remaining. That's how far behind we are unfortunately. Swindon1984
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2:15pm Tue 25 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

It's OFFICAL gladwin is better than messi after one good game according to many post, as Dossevi was better than van persie after a friendly
It's OFFICAL gladwin is better than messi after one good game according to many post, as Dossevi was better than van persie after a friendly smirg kcab
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2:37pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
It's OFFICAL gladwin is better than messi after one good game according to many post, as Dossevi was better than van persie after a friendly
Again Grim, no-one's mentioned Gladwin on this one apart from you!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: It's OFFICAL gladwin is better than messi after one good game according to many post, as Dossevi was better than van persie after a friendly[/p][/quote]Again Grim, no-one's mentioned Gladwin on this one apart from you! Swindon1984
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2:45pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Isn't safety already guaranteed?
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50 points is usually the magic number - with 48 being enough when we went down last time!
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Being on 51 - that should mean no worries anymore (not that I had any as I still think it will be below 50 - can't see how bottom 4 are suddenly going to go from 0.8/0.9 a game to 1.2+ in last 8!)
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I guess there is a real arguemnt that we should seriously start to look at next season as surely the last 8 games are the best chance to see if the likes of Branco and Oakley are worth retaining
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However - there is the risk of upsetting a few -who won't see it that way and we will get the normal "I'm not renewing if that is the future" if a game goes badly because of it
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There is the risk a bit like Wolves that Brentford could run us to the mill if we played lots of our kids!
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As for Troy/Jay - I guess if either is planned on being retained IMO they should be used as much as possible as we need their potential partner to play with them to build up that understanding now and not learn it at the start of next season
OK LR, let's assume we're safe. I wasn't looking to debate that point.

A decision has to be made about McEveley and Archibald-Henville. If they are still in the process of recovery (i.e. they are expected to make full recoveries eventually), from any perspective it must be wrong to play them and risk damage/delay to that process. If they are never going to be capable of playing more than one game a week, then from a purely STFC viewpoint I can't see that it matters much whether we play them or not, as we shouldn't be keeping them on beyond the end of the season - unless they are to be used only as cover and I doubt either would be too keen on that.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Isn't safety already guaranteed? . 50 points is usually the magic number - with 48 being enough when we went down last time! . Being on 51 - that should mean no worries anymore (not that I had any as I still think it will be below 50 - can't see how bottom 4 are suddenly going to go from 0.8/0.9 a game to 1.2+ in last 8!) . I guess there is a real arguemnt that we should seriously start to look at next season as surely the last 8 games are the best chance to see if the likes of Branco and Oakley are worth retaining . However - there is the risk of upsetting a few -who won't see it that way and we will get the normal "I'm not renewing if that is the future" if a game goes badly because of it . There is the risk a bit like Wolves that Brentford could run us to the mill if we played lots of our kids! . As for Troy/Jay - I guess if either is planned on being retained IMO they should be used as much as possible as we need their potential partner to play with them to build up that understanding now and not learn it at the start of next season[/p][/quote]OK LR, let's assume we're safe. I wasn't looking to debate that point. A decision has to be made about McEveley and Archibald-Henville. If they are still in the process of recovery (i.e. they are expected to make full recoveries eventually), from any perspective it must be wrong to play them and risk damage/delay to that process. If they are never going to be capable of playing more than one game a week, then from a purely STFC viewpoint I can't see that it matters much whether we play them or not, as we shouldn't be keeping them on beyond the end of the season - unless they are to be used only as cover and I doubt either would be too keen on that. Oi Den!
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2:53pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

By the way LR, I don't think people have cited any single game as the basis for not renewing their season tickets. It's the feeble, passionless and boring football that's done the damage. That might be the cue for some posters to defend the style of football but there's no doubt at all that it's keeping people away already. Here's hoping we've turned the corner in the last couple of games. Maybe Cooper has at last been told he can mix it up a bit.
By the way LR, I don't think people have cited any single game as the basis for not renewing their season tickets. It's the feeble, passionless and boring football that's done the damage. That might be the cue for some posters to defend the style of football but there's no doubt at all that it's keeping people away already. Here's hoping we've turned the corner in the last couple of games. Maybe Cooper has at last been told he can mix it up a bit. Oi Den!
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3:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Mchalethegreat says...

Lot better Saturday it was nice to see some pace. When Storey gets a head of steam on, he does scare defenders purely due to his pace. The Jay and Troy one is tricky. If he was sure to be fit I think Troy should be 100% retained and also be made captain. I quite like Jay. There have been several matches where he has been stand-out performer but never got a man of the match award. Again in terms of experience for me he is a keep if he is fit. Personally I would go Wes, Nathan, Branco, Stephens, A.Smith , Kasim,Gladwin with Nathan B (if fit) give Tijane a run out (is he up to it or not, I think we need to see) and Storey and Smith up front. Plenty of pace and positivity ...lets have a go at them and see if that gets us the result. On a seperate note has anyone read about Ranger being arrested in Liverpool at the weekend for trashing a cab??
Lot better Saturday it was nice to see some pace. When Storey gets a head of steam on, he does scare defenders purely due to his pace. The Jay and Troy one is tricky. If he was sure to be fit I think Troy should be 100% retained and also be made captain. I quite like Jay. There have been several matches where he has been stand-out performer but never got a man of the match award. Again in terms of experience for me he is a keep if he is fit. Personally I would go Wes, Nathan, Branco, Stephens, A.Smith , Kasim,Gladwin with Nathan B (if fit) give Tijane a run out (is he up to it or not, I think we need to see) and Storey and Smith up front. Plenty of pace and positivity ...lets have a go at them and see if that gets us the result. On a seperate note has anyone read about Ranger being arrested in Liverpool at the weekend for trashing a cab?? Mchalethegreat
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3:40pm Tue 25 Mar 14

the wizard says...

If Troy is fit and willing and that all important knee is up to the job, then lets have the same starting eleven as Saturday. If it aint broke then lets not try to fix it. I'd rather we went there seeking three points tonight , that being realistic than try against better clubs away in the almost impossible hope of something. Lets focus on the "easier" allegedly clubs and get points on the board. Best of luck tonight. Lets go for it.
If Troy is fit and willing and that all important knee is up to the job, then lets have the same starting eleven as Saturday. If it aint broke then lets not try to fix it. I'd rather we went there seeking three points tonight , that being realistic than try against better clubs away in the almost impossible hope of something. Lets focus on the "easier" allegedly clubs and get points on the board. Best of luck tonight. Lets go for it. the wizard
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4:39pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

the wizard wrote:
If Troy is fit and willing and that all important knee is up to the job, then lets have the same starting eleven as Saturday. If it aint broke then lets not try to fix it. I'd rather we went there seeking three points tonight , that being realistic than try against better clubs away in the almost impossible hope of something. Lets focus on the "easier" allegedly clubs and get points on the board. Best of luck tonight. Lets go for it.
Fair point but very unlikely it'll be the same starting lineup, Cooper's said Jay and TAH can't play two games in a row and can't see him playing either tonight.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: If Troy is fit and willing and that all important knee is up to the job, then lets have the same starting eleven as Saturday. If it aint broke then lets not try to fix it. I'd rather we went there seeking three points tonight , that being realistic than try against better clubs away in the almost impossible hope of something. Lets focus on the "easier" allegedly clubs and get points on the board. Best of luck tonight. Lets go for it.[/p][/quote]Fair point but very unlikely it'll be the same starting lineup, Cooper's said Jay and TAH can't play two games in a row and can't see him playing either tonight. Swindon1984
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5:53pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Once safety is guaranteed, wouldn't it be better to give these two the rest of the season to recover? Or are they permanently semi-crocked? I agree with LR. We can't have a long-term situation where first choice players aren't fit enough to play 2 games in a week. It's a recipe for disruption and inconsistency.
Den,

I would be amazed if a team were relegated from this league with 51 points this season, 50pts as a general rule is safety.

Agree about the semi-crocked point but the resting may be more short term and they could be okay next season after a summer break. I personally hope this is the case and they are both with us next season fully fit.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Once safety is guaranteed, wouldn't it be better to give these two the rest of the season to recover? Or are they permanently semi-crocked? I agree with LR. We can't have a long-term situation where first choice players aren't fit enough to play 2 games in a week. It's a recipe for disruption and inconsistency.[/p][/quote]Den, I would be amazed if a team were relegated from this league with 51 points this season, 50pts as a general rule is safety. Agree about the semi-crocked point but the resting may be more short term and they could be okay next season after a summer break. I personally hope this is the case and they are both with us next season fully fit. COYMR Oxon-Red
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5:57pm Tue 25 Mar 14

London Red says...

Den - I wasn't saying it would be one game - but we do have 4 left at home and 8 in total - so playing the "kids" and getting beat WILL lead to those types of comments
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We have seen already with comments like "I'm not renewing as its relegation for sure if we are going to have the likes M.Smith and Barker up front" as they had a poor game - so would epect the same again if Hall, A.Smith, Barthram, Galdwin et al all had an off game or 2 in the run in
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As for Jay and Troy - isn't it they can't play Sat-Tues-Sat - but Sat-Sat is fine
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Most games are only Sat-Sat with the majority of Tues games being in the Cup - so shouldn't matter too much if Troy missed a few - we only had 9 games this season which Troy would have had to miss that way - including Boxing Day / New Years Day and Easter Monday
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So if he could play 36 - surely that is enough to keep him?
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If so and we are looking like keeping Stephens' - I would rather Troy played 5 or 6 of the last 8 so they get a good understanding
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Then add Branco or Oakley in as the 3rd or games Troy misses to see how they play and how they play with Stephens
Den - I wasn't saying it would be one game - but we do have 4 left at home and 8 in total - so playing the "kids" and getting beat WILL lead to those types of comments . We have seen already with comments like "I'm not renewing as its relegation for sure if we are going to have the likes M.Smith and Barker up front" as they had a poor game - so would epect the same again if Hall, A.Smith, Barthram, Galdwin et al all had an off game or 2 in the run in . As for Jay and Troy - isn't it they can't play Sat-Tues-Sat - but Sat-Sat is fine . Most games are only Sat-Sat with the majority of Tues games being in the Cup - so shouldn't matter too much if Troy missed a few - we only had 9 games this season which Troy would have had to miss that way - including Boxing Day / New Years Day and Easter Monday . So if he could play 36 - surely that is enough to keep him? . If so and we are looking like keeping Stephens' - I would rather Troy played 5 or 6 of the last 8 so they get a good understanding . Then add Branco or Oakley in as the 3rd or games Troy misses to see how they play and how they play with Stephens London Red
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7:11pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Yes LR, Sat and Sat is one game a week. Sat-Tue-Sat is 2 games a week.

You did say "if A game goes badly..."
I was just pointing out that it's the trend that's pi55ed people off, not any single game. And I don't think it has anything to do with youth either. Stephens, Gladwin and Smith are all youngsters. It didn't seem to hold them back on Saturday. It's really about having the desire and ability to graft, not about age and experience - although at least one proven leader would not go amiss.

Interesting that McEveley is playing tonight. Hope that means he's fully recovered. I've never been his biggest fan, partly because of his poor discipline and partly because he often looks slow, but his will to win has been impressive while that's been in short supply around him for much of the season.
Yes LR, Sat and Sat is one game a week. Sat-Tue-Sat is 2 games a week. You did say "if A game goes badly..." I was just pointing out that it's the trend that's pi55ed people off, not any single game. And I don't think it has anything to do with youth either. Stephens, Gladwin and Smith are all youngsters. It didn't seem to hold them back on Saturday. It's really about having the desire and ability to graft, not about age and experience - although at least one proven leader would not go amiss. Interesting that McEveley is playing tonight. Hope that means he's fully recovered. I've never been his biggest fan, partly because of his poor discipline and partly because he often looks slow, but his will to win has been impressive while that's been in short supply around him for much of the season. Oi Den!
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